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I think the marketing people should have told the engineers to not do it the way it has always been done. Huge disconnect between the marketing and engineering departments?
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The ~9GB lost due to standard formatting from a 64GB drive? That is unusable. Literally.


What do you mean? 9GB aren't lost due to formatting. Manufacturers simply use the metric definition for Giga in Giga-byte, as in 1 billion bytes.
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What do you mean? 9GB aren't lost due to formatting. Manufacturers simply use the metric definition for Giga in Giga-byte, as in 1 billion bytes.

Actually, when formatting an NTFS volume it needs that space for its internal data structures. I'm assuming that was what he was referring to.
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Haha what a joke, they should have left the 30-day trial of Norton Antivirus off.

Also, using Excel on a touchscreen sounds like about as much fun as typing with mittens on.

My problem with touch screens and productivity is typing on touch screens seems to always be slower and harder. I don't think much work would be done (at least by me) if I was using a touch pad with excel.
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My problem with touch screens and productivity is typing on touch screens seems to always be slower and harder. I don't think much work would be done (at least by me) if I was using a touch pad with excel.

In all fairness, there is more than one option for input with the Surface smile.gif
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post #146 of 226
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I think the marketing people should have told the engineers to not do it the way it has always been done. Huge disconnect between the marketing and engineering departments?

Considering this isn't a product that fits into the mold of "the way it's always been done" yes, there is a disconnect.

basically I agree with everything tpi2007 is saying. This is Microsofts first impression. This mars that first impression a bit. While it's a fairly simple fix for most semi technically inclined people, it's also an easy fix for Microsoft to implement before hand so no customer will even get the impression that they are being cheated out of storage space. This would leave no room for articles such as this one to be posted, and no room for this discussion to even happen.

and whether it's fair or not, this device is going to be compared to every other tablet out there, Microsoft should be able to see that and in turn realize that they have to go above and beyond in basically every category.

Just my 2cents.gif
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Actually, when formatting an NTFS volume it needs that space for its internal data structures. I'm assuming that was what he was referring to.

I'm fairly certain NTFS doesn't take up 9GB. My Kingston 240GB Kingston HyperX shows a measured 223GB of usable space and 240GB is 223.5 Gibibytes (according to an online calc I used), meaning there is very little overhead from NTFS.
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In all fairness, there is more than one option for input with the Surface smile.gif

I had a feeling someone would say that smile.gif, your right, but i think attaching a keyboard to a table sort of defeats the purpose.
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I'm fairly certain NTFS doesn't take up 9GB. My Kingston 240GB Kingston HyperX shows a measured 223GB of usable space and 240GB is 223.5 Gibibytes (according to an online calc I used), meaning there is very little overhead from NTFS.

No clue what he meant then. 9GB seemed extreme, but the figure was likely pulled from thin air tongue.gif
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I had a feeling someone would say that smile.gif, your right, but i think attaching a keyboard to a table sort of defeats the purpose.

having used a Transformer Prime, it really doesn't. It just enhances it's versatility. I would imagine that would be even better with a fulls blown Windows 8 tablet hybrid like the Surface Pro.
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