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Ultradurable 4(UD3H/UD5H):

  • 2X the amount of copper of a traditional motherboard makes for efficient heat dissipation
  • reduced PCB impedance by 50% for decreased electrical waste
  • mproved signal quality and lower EMI for better system stability
  • New Glass Fabric PCB uses a new PCB material which reduces the amount of space between the fiber weave for better humidity protection
  • High ESD Resistance ICs features up to 3 times the ESD resistance levels compared to traditional ICs to better protect the motherboard.
  • Dual BIOS
  • Special anti-surge ICs protect motherboard from any power surge
  • All solid capacitors and lower RDS (on) MOSFETs

Ultradurable 5(UP4TH/5TH)
Everything above +
[*] IR3550 PowIRstage ICs from International Rectifier
[*] high current Ferrite Core Chokes rated up to 60A



It is marketing, but it means business too.

Fixed, and it's exactly my point. UD branding tells specific list of features with three words.
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What I read from sin was that they used low quality mosfets and moved to higher quality mosfets on z77, besides the firmware and design issues. It was said to contrast what asrock did, where they used fairly good VRMs on the extreme4 p67/z68, but their extreme4 z77 (and lower boards) have worse VRMs than their p67/z68 counterparts.

Vishay made DrMOS mosfets (SiC769CD) that were used on Z68 boards are good. You can take a look at Sin's video at 23:31. These mosfets are one of the better ones.
Edited by DeXel - 2/2/13 at 8:06pm
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Your chip isn't going to last very long. I wouldn't push 1.52 volts for more than a few minutes, personally, and I certainly would not run anything as stressful as prime 95 on 1.55V, let alone a 12 hour run.

Do you have any reason for saying that? Reports or something? Or is this just 'feeling'? There's a big difference between fact and opinion. I'm not too experienced with intel overclocking, if I'm wrong about something, let me know.

As I understand it, IB is much hardier than SB, and people have run 1.6vcore for 24/7 overclocks with no reported degradation, and reports of degradation on ivy is unheard of, all that's been reported so far is people straight up killing the cpu when doing sub-ambient extreme overclocks with over 1.8vcore.

If volts are a problem on IB let me know, but so far I hit 91*C on 4.7/1.5vcore only after about 5 minutes, and at 1.55vcore with a few overclocks at 4.7+ I just hit 85*C max (system bsod's before it can run 5 minutes or let temps really build up - although maybe temps are being a limiting factor in the overclock, i dont know, right now im not overclocking im just binning and comparing 2 3570k's i have and trying to see which one is best).
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post #83 of 106
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Do you have any reason for saying that? Reports or something? Or is this just 'feeling'? There's a big difference between fact and opinion. I'm not too experienced with intel overclocking, if I'm wrong about something, let me know.

As I understand it, IB is much hardier than SB, and people have run 1.6vcore for 24/7 overclocks with no reported degradation, and reports of degradation on ivy is unheard of, all that's been reported so far is people straight up killing the cpu when doing sub-ambient extreme overclocks with over 1.8vcore.

If volts are a problem on IB let me know, but so far I hit 91*C on 4.7/1.5vcore only after about 5 minutes, and at 1.55vcore with a few overclocks at 4.7+ I just hit 85*C max (system bsod's before it can run 5 minutes or let temps really build up - although maybe temps are being a limiting factor in the overclock, i dont know, right now im not overclocking im just binning and comparing 2 3570k's i have and trying to see which one is best).
Well, I saw this a while ago:
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Yeeeep, gave my delidded (with MX-2) 3570K 1.60 volts with an H100 slushbox.

Previously I gave it like 1.6 with the h100 with push/pull, degraded the already horrible chip a bit lol
And this was just during benching. I wouldn't want to run 1.6V on one for anything more than benching.

I don't really know what the max save voltage is, but for day to day use, I wouldn't run it above 1.5V for long periods of time.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 2/3/13 at 9:49am
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I'll go by sin's guide then. I won't go above 1.55vcore for 24/7 usage (which means i'll need to run a 24 hour p95 test on that voltage to make sure its stable), stay under 95*C as a max temp, and 1.75 for 24/7 ram voltage.
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I'll go by sin's guide then. I won't go above 1.55vcore for 24/7 usage (which means i'll need to run a 24 hour p95 test on that voltage to make sure its stable), stay under 95*C as a max temp, and 1.75 for 24/7 ram voltage.
People always say not to go above 1.65V with RAM. Can you go to 1.75V with Ivy's new IMC?

Let us know how that works out long term, that should be interesting to see.
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People always say not to go above 1.65V with RAM. Can you go to 1.75V with Ivy's new IMC?

Let us know how that works out long term, that should be interesting to see.

Not sure about long term, for benching many use 1.9 - 2.0V vdimm for hours on end so the IMC is pretty tough.
I wouldn't really worry about 1.75V.
    
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yea you can easily use over 1.75v for ivy, very easily.
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yea i think 1.75vdimm for 24/7 overclock is fine (including 24 hours of p95 or folding). Not sure on the limit but i think 1.75, maybe 1.8, for a 24/7 overclock (ie testing p95 for stability on that too) is fine.

its just sb that vdimm is a real problem, as i understand it.
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Going to update for the MSI Z77A-G41, based on personal experience. I'm pleasantly surprised by what I got for $19.99.

- The board has +0.00 to +0.16voltage. Now, one of my 3570ks has a stock voltage of 1.05-1.16. The max voltage I can set this board to, basically, is something like 1.35v or so.

Now I believe that's offset voltage, right? I mean, when I overclock to 4.5ghz and keep the power saving features, it goes to 1.6ghz on low/idle and 1.12vcore. And I thought "auto" voltage would mean the cpu changed voltage based on frequency? Because that didn't happen for me, same voltage when set to auto at 3.8 and 3.4. bit confused on that.

- You can't adjust PLL, IMC, VTT, voltages. Just vcore, RAM (which is only 1.5, 1.65, 1.8). You can change timings and ram speed, and there is 'enable pll overvoltage' option.

- No PWM settings but there are current and power/wattage limit settings.

The VRMS get really hot. On 4.5ghz@1.336vcore (+.16 voltage), the 3 temp diodes I have on the 3 vcore phases are showing 58*C/75*C to Er/ 75*C to Er, meaning it's hitting 80*C+ on the hotter phases (the higher phases always seem to be the hottest on motherboards). There's also been some choke whine for brief moments during the testing, I just heard it once though and it went away, and it was quite minor. The Chokes are extremely hot to the touch.

Seems like a pretty low quality VRM. They are Nikos too, but not the same nikos I had on my biostar. The chokes don't seem too great, considering the whine already and how hot they are to the touch. They are untouchable, painfully hot.

Still, pretty good deal for $19. I didn't expect any vcore control and there appears to be offset control, contrary to what I wrote before. I'm not sure how that is.
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Ok so, can someone confirm 100% that the ASUS P8Z77-V LE has no voltage control at all (as listed on the first page). My local microcenter has one for 55 bucks, compare that to 145.00 at newegg.

I know the number of VRM chips means nothing but this model has 9 of them, while the v-lk and v--lx have far fewer VRM chips. My current biostar lacks load line calibration and i cannot hit large overclocks because of this.

If anyone owns the P8Z77-V LE id like to know what kind of overclocking potential this board has and its bios options, it is not listed in the VRM list by sin.
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