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On the tech side of things, Hawken is a tour de force, sporting the aforementioned, advanced Unreal Engine 3 graphics, but also GPU-accelerated NVIDIA only PhysX effects that add destruction particles, extra, and realistic weapon effects. This video also demonstrates a soon-to-come PhysX feature in Hawken: APEX Turbulence. APEX Turbulence is a PhysX feature which uses velocity fields to simulate particle motion. You will see this in action inside of Hawken with energy collectors, mech death embers, deployed shields, and mech health orb embers.

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Some pretty cool effects
 
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A lot of them look really cheesy and could have been implemented better without Physx being enabled. A boring energy beam without and then a mass of swirling particles with it on, neither are too appealing, could have easily made nice arcing lightning with no physx. The mech destructions do look pretty nice with it though.
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I play Hawken, but haven't tried using PhysX yet because I don't think it will react well to CPU PhysX (though there have honestly been some multi-core improvements), and because my frame rates are already borderline.

If I had a much faster GPU subystem and a dedicated PhysX card, I'd probably use it, but I am worried that increased clutter would negatively affect gameplay though.

PhysX, to really take off, needs to be more than eye-candy. I guess it's the whole chicken and egg scenario. If it is more than eye-candy, everyone needs PhysX to play, and you alienate much of your market. If it's not, many people see no incentive in trying to use it, especially at the cost of performance.
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I would not use it on this game, Not only do i want the frames but the particles would get in your way at times.
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I play Hawken, but haven't tried using PhysX yet because I don't think it will react well to CPU PhysX (though there have honestly been some multi-core improvements), and because my frame rates are already borderline.

If I had a much faster GPU subystem and a dedicated PhysX card, I'd probably use it, but I am worried that increased clutter would negatively affect gameplay though.

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I agree, I havent used physx, if it had similar settings like in Batman gotham city with 3 levels of physx (high, mid, and low), then we could still have physx on low settings which our cpu can still do it. But once you go high or mid, then you would really need a dedicated physx card.

From the vid, looks like i have been missing a lot of the extras details. I like how you can see the shield reaction from the bullets. redface.gif
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It's just because Nvidia pumped a lot of money into the development. That's just it.
    
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I don't think this video would be enough for me to make the switch to Nvidia if I was an AMD owner, but it definitely looks awesome. I'd have PhysX set to High when playing this one for sure thumb.gif
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It's just because Nvidia pumped a lot of money into the development. That's just it.

You don't expect the devs to implement it in their spare time do you? tongue.gif
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while it sure looks cool, Hawken is basically a competitive shooter, and I really wouldn't want all that extra junk cluttering my screen. For a single player game, sure, bring the PhysX, but for this, not so much
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A lot of them look really cheesy and could have been implemented better without Physx being enabled. A boring energy beam without and then a mass of swirling particles with it on, neither are too appealing, could have easily made nice arcing lightning with no physx. The mech destructions do look pretty nice with it though.

Agreed. Personally I find PhysX particle effects to look cheesy as hell, like something out of a bad CG demo from the late 90s or something. The debris is cool but I don't see why they had to use particle physics to get that effect.
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We don't need no stinkin' proprietary engines, nVidia!
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