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Would you sell your current (look in sig) for a newer version that has a Intel i7 3630QM and a GTX670MX? Or is the performance not worth the price?


Reason being, is that I want to be more ready for the games that are coming in the rest of 2013, ie Crysis 3, BF4.

I have heard that the GTX670MX OCs like mad and could very well match the performance of a GTX675MX/680M when OC'd. Then the thought of Maxwell is brought to mind......
    
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If you can find someone that is willing to pay for near the full price to make the upgrade worth it, then there's nothing wrong with it.

But if they demand like $200 or more subtracted from the original price you purchased at, then you're going to have to ask yourself if it's worth the small performance boost.
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If you can find someone that is willing to pay for near the full price to make the upgrade worth it, then there's nothing wrong with it.

But if they demand like $200 or more subtracted from the original price you purchased at, then you're going to have to ask yourself if it's worth the small performance boost.

The 670MX is a little faster than the 670M, right on par with a 675M actually, but the real attraction point to the Kepler GPUs is that they're highly overclockable. biggrin.gif The 660Ms and 650Ms all hit around 1GHz with no voltage mods or anything.

The 670MX is exactly the same as the 675MX as far as real world specifications go. Same shader count, same ROP count and same TMU count, but the memory bus and bandwidth are bottlenecking the 670MX from matching its big brother.

So... I would go for it. It's definitely worth the upgrade if not just for that reason. Plus, it's cooler by a long shot. biggrin.gif From what I understand, the 670MX is probably the most versatile of the bunch because of how well it overclocks. biggrin.gif
     
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Well here is whats in my cart.

Sager NP9130 - Gaming Laptop (Clevo P151EM1)
- FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- NO DISCOUNT - my order is not over $1350.00 (excludes taxes, shipping, & any non-Sager upgrades)
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Sager Screen (SKU - S1R324)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU - S2N224)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- FREE UPGRADE! - nVidia GeForce GTX 670MX 3,072MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology (SKU - S5S999)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 8GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) - SPECIAL! (SKU - S4T424M)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No mSATA SSD
- 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] - Default (SKU - S5T306)
- Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ v3.0 (SKU - S8R110)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- No Xotic PC Gear

Sub-Total: $1,084.00


Keep in mind I purchased mine for $1065 last year. I'd hope to get about $900 without the SSD. I would put the stock 750GB back in.
    
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Well here is whats in my cart.

Sager NP9130 - Gaming Laptop (Clevo P151EM1)
- FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- NO DISCOUNT - my order is not over $1350.00 (excludes taxes, shipping, & any non-Sager upgrades)
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Sager Screen (SKU - S1R324)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU - S2N224)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- FREE UPGRADE! - nVidia GeForce GTX 670MX 3,072MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology (SKU - S5S999)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 8GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) - SPECIAL! (SKU - S4T424M)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No mSATA SSD
- 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] - Default (SKU - S5T306)
- Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ v3.0 (SKU - S8R110)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- No Xotic PC Gear

Sub-Total: $1,084.00


Keep in mind I purchased mine for $1065 last year. I'd hope to get about $900 without the SSD. I would put the stock 750GB back in.

Sure you don't want the 675MX with the 9150? :3 Little more firepower since your "upgrade" will almost be identical? biggrin.gif

(Didn't know if you could tell I was kidding. redface.gif)
Edited by Imglidinhere - 1/29/13 at 6:37pm
     
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Sager NP9150 / Clevo P150EM
- FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- SAGER Winter Sale!!! - $50 OFF When you spend $1350.00* or more! (*excludes non-sager parts, accessories, shipping, & taxes)
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen (SKU - S1R319)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU – S2R174)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 675MX 4,096MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU – S5R521)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S423P)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
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- Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ v3.0 (SKU - S8R110)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- No Xotic PC Gear

Sub-Total: $1,319.00

It's quite the difference though......biggrin.gif
    
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$300 upgrade from a 670MX to 675MX. Yeah, that's a tad expensive...
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$300 upgrade from a 670MX to 675MX. Yeah, that's a tad expensive...

Well... on the 9150 you've got a base price of $1269, use the $50 off coupon and then proceed to tack on the 675MX for $100.

So not only is the 9150 more expensive as a baseline product, but the GPU costs a little more. The extra cash also goes toward the larger PSU. I want to say it's 180w instead of only 120w. tongue.gif

But yeah. Good stuff. Again, the 9150 offers more expansion options from the get-go. tongue.gif


But meh. unnecessary if you want the battery life portion. :3 I'd go for the 9130 in your case specifically.
     
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Well... on the 9150 you've got a base price of $1269, use the $50 off coupon and then proceed to tack on the 675MX for $100.

So not only is the 9150 more expensive as a baseline product, but the GPU costs a little more. The extra cash also goes toward the larger PSU. I want to say it's 180w instead of only 120w. tongue.gif

But yeah. Good stuff. Again, the 9150 offers more expansion options from the get-go. tongue.gif


But meh. unnecessary if you want the battery life portion. :3 I'd go for the 9130 in your case specifically.

Not so much the battery life, just performance per dollar. If I was to do the upgrades on my current NP9130 to say a IB cpu and a Kepler GPU, it would easily cost 200-400 more than just selling my current NP9130 vs buying a newer one with IB/Kepler in it already.
    
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Not so much the battery life, just performance per dollar. If I was to do the upgrades on my current NP9130 to say a IB cpu and a Kepler GPU, it would easily cost 200-400 more than just selling my current NP9130 vs buying a newer one with IB/Kepler in it already.

You make it sound like IB CPUs and Kepler mobile GPUs are horridly expensive. tongue.gif

You can get a 3610QM for around $250 and you can get a 670MX for $400 off fleabay. tongue.gif So... it might be worthwhile just to buy the parts you're trying to upgrade to. tongue.gif

CPU: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Computer-Components-Parts-/175673/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=i7+3630qm

GPU: http://www.ebay.com/itm/new-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-670MX-3GB-GDDR5-for-CLEVO-upgrade-monkey-free-shipping-/140898284525?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item20ce3133ed
     
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