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Can you mount a thing radiator above the case frame between the shutter?

yes you can. watch the vid i posted earlier in this thread. it explains everything
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yes you can. watch the vid i posted earlier in this thread. it explains everything

ya that's why I asked I heard him say it and wasn't sure if I heard it right. In that case, I'll be getting the XSPC RS360 instead of the RX line.
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post #13 of 24
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ya that's why I asked I heard him say it and wasn't sure if I heard it right. In that case, I'll be getting the XSPC RS360 instead of the RX line.

ah ok gotcha. yeah that would fit perfectly and you could run fans in push pull if you wanted as well
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how much space is in that gap. Just single stack thick or can you fit a double stack in there as well.
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Ok, I'll bite, why would you WANT to put a slim radiator up top right under the louvers? I mean that would pretty much force you put put your fans inside the case, and unless you left the louvers off and put 3 more fans on top of that radiator (to do push/pull) it won't get you anything. With a thin radiator you could mount the radiator up on the top inside of the case AND mount the fans on the inside of the case to the radiator AND put fans in the louver area and still have plenty of room in the case. Heck, I put fans under the louver a 60mm radiator AND more fans under that (granted it took some work, but still it worked).

In my other switch 810 case, I put fans up top in the louver area, a 45mm slim radiator inside and 3 more fans to that and had 15mm of room between the inside fans and the motherboard. (ie I didn't have to mod a thing).

I just don't understand WHY you would want to put a radiator up top in the louver area.

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how much space is in that gap. Just single stack thick or can you fit a double stack in there as well.

Not much at all. Just a hair more than 25mm. MAYBE 30mm total. I can check when I get home.
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Ok, I pulled out my adjustable speed square and measured from the top of the metal case of the case to the very bottom of the louvers, and it was 1 3/8". That is 34.925mm. A bit more than I figured, but not by much. You might want to figure on 34mm so you don't rub the what ever is under the louvers in case you open or close them.
post #17 of 24
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You're awesome. I suppose you don't know the MM thickness of the RS and RX XSPC radiators? I'm really just thinking about going with the RS360.

I'm curious how it'll perform against the new swiftech.
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You're awesome. I suppose you don't know the MM thickness of the RS and RX XSPC radiators? I'm really just thinking about going with the RS360.

I'm curious how it'll perform against the new swiftech.

The RS series is 35mm thick and the RX series is 62mm thick. I have used both.

My build called "White Ranger" uses the RS360 with 6 fans on it in a Switch 810 case. My build called "The Betty" uses 3 of the RX360's with 18 fans on them in an external case. My other build, "Muzzle Flash" uses an RX360 with 6 fans on it in a Switch 810 case and it also has a Monsta 360 radiator that is 86mm thick with 6 fans on it in a pedestal that is attached to the Switch 810.

As far as how radiators perform, you really should look at what many consider the standard for radiator reviews ... Martin's Liquid Labs ... http://martinsliquidlab.org/

Here are several relevant links:

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/03/27/xspc-rs360-radiator/

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/12/22/xspc-ex360-radiator/

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/03/27/xspc-rx360-radiator/

and for the Swiftech:

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/08/swiftech-mcr320-qp-radiator/

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/08/swiftech-mcr320-xp-radiator/


Personally, I love the RX thicker radiator, especially with low RPM fans. It has a TON of cooling while running very quiet fans, especially when you mount a fan on both sides.




Another good set of radiators is from Alphacool (that is who makes the "Monsta"). They are comparable to the XSPC RS and RX, but are much nicer IMO. They are all copper, they include everything you will ever need, and have 6 ports plus a top fill port as opposed to the standard 2 so you can run tubing any which way you want, and have screw guards that prevent you from putting the screws in too far and puncturing the radiator core (which, sadly, I have done once).

They have 30mm thick, 45mm thick, 60mm thick, and 86mm thick radiators.

http://www.alphacool.com/index.php/cat/c103_Triple-Radiator.html

The UT450 and UT60 are by far their most popular. And most US shops carry them.

Also, Martin did a review of many of the Alphacool rads, and has some comparisons (this is just using "push" fans only). Different radiators do better than others (and worse) with different RPM fans on them. I personally like the 1450RPM fan. Others love the 800RPM ones on the thicker 60mm radiators because they still do a good amount of cooling and are virtually silent (although a good fan like the Gentle Typhoon AP-14 at 1450RPM is all but silent, even at 2 feet away and when you have 18 of them going at once.)

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/12/alphacool-nexxxos-ut60-360-radiator/4/


Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/1/13 at 7:26pm
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You're a machine haha. I probably should have mentioned other radiators are irrelevant because I'm buying the XSPC Raystorm kit. Durp me. For giggles though I'm going to read through all that. Multiple rep to you good sir
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You're a machine haha. I probably should have mentioned other radiators are irrelevant because I'm buying the XSPC Raystorm kit. Durp me. For giggles though I'm going to read through all that. Multiple rep to you good sir

Thank you. I enjoy helping others. Heaven knows when I started out, lots of people helped me. I'm just paying it back when I can.

BTW, I love the XSPC Raystorm kit.

On my "White Ranger" build, I used this kit.

XSPC Raystorm Extreme Universal CPU Watercooling Kit w/ EX360 Radiator/D5 Pump/Res

That machine runs 24/7 at 100% CPU load with 6 fans on the radiator on it with a SERIOUSLY overclocked 2700K CPU ... OC'd to 4.9GHz.

Granted I am only cooling the CPU with that kit (ie no video card), but the temps are excellent. You could easily add a video card to that kit and have a more "sane" overclock and cool both a CPU and video card. Not to mention, with the Switch 810 case, you could also add a 2nd radiator later, say an RS240 or RX240 and put it in the bottom of the case (with no modifications) and get more cooling capacity.

Here is a screen shot of my one system that is using that kit and OC'd to 4.9GHz at 100% load:




Also, I love the D5 pumps, that is why I went with that kit. They tend to run quiet and cool, since the water cools the pump, unlike a DDC pump which may need a heatsink since air cools the pump. Also, if you can spring for a couple extra bucks, I do recommend the "Variable Speed" D5 pump. You can usually back it off to a setting of 3 (from 1 to 5) and it still has great water flow, and is very quiet).
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