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post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Take it all back. Seriously....

To buy that kind of hardware and then put a $150 or less GPU in it is like spending the money on buying a Ferrari and then not putting tires on it, and trying to drive it around on just the bare wheels. The level of gimped in that system is beyond anything I have seen in a long time....

First, stop with the 32GB of RAM, you aren't going to use it, 8GB is more than enough in almost every situation. People that need more than that actually know it and it is for very specific situations.

Why did you buy 3 displays that only have VGA connectors? I would just take all 3 back and buy 1 higher quality display, maybe at a higher resolution.

SSDs are great, but on such a tight budget you typically would snag a 120GB for sub $100 and put your OS and a few games or other often used programs on it. The SSD you selected is a good one, but about 1/3 of your entire system budget that you originally had.

The Core i7 kind of falls into the same category as memory, it is hugely overkill. You won't be using it outside a few heavily threaded situations, and any future game that might utilize it you won't be able to play with such a gimped video card ($150).

You are trying to sate a Champagne taste on a beer budget....it just isn't going to work. So either take everything back and start over, getting parts that aren't going to destroy your budget and will build a balanced system that will actually perform, or save up your cash until you can drop $250 on a decent video card that won't gimp the rest of the build.


Listen to this guy, he tells you good things. Even though they sound bad.^^^



I'll corroborate what he says with solid examples.
My builds center around

MicroCenter 3570k + Budget overclocking motherboards (~100-130)
8GB of RAM ($35+tax)
$33 nZXT source or similar budget case
$20-30 QUALITY power supply (cx430 suffices for $20AR lots of the times it goes on sale )
$60 HDD

Subtotal - GPU = 463 + GPU?

Then I dump the remaining money into the biggest muscle GPU I can find. Hopefully 7950 for ~$290 range otherwise a 7850 for $150 works well for the lowest caliber GPU I'd put in a build.

You're buying a ferrari shell and putting a VW Bug engine in.
I have some sort of rice rocket with a V8 inside the engine. I have no idea what I'm talking about cars but you get the idea. tongue.gif
post #12 of 18
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Dammit, I wanted the latest and greatest and guess I got a little carried away. I could return some stuff considering that I bought it from bestbuy.com and there's a store near buy. But I'd have to wait for the delivery first.

Things I'd like to keep:
3 x 21.5" Samsung Monitors
And motherboard
I WANT Windows 8

I bought 32gb ram just cause the system was able to expand to that.

I trade bonds, commodities, ETFs, forex, gold, options, REITs, and stocks in various OTC markets.
So for my work purpose I need 3 monitors with extended desktop, and a FAST processor for handling multiple applications such a trading platform, charting platform, live stock data feed, etc.

I ordered 3 brand new Samsung LS22B150N 21.5" LED monitors
Further specs: all of which have VGA connectivity. http://goo.gl/m1Brk

Resolution requirements for the card: 1920 x 1080



PostalTwinkie or FlashFir or anyone really, can you help with the build? Thank you
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by partytime View Post

Dammit, I wanted the latest and greatest and guess I got a little carried away. I could return some stuff considering that I bought it from bestbuy.com and there's a store near buy. But I'd have to wait for the delivery first.

Things I'd like to keep:
3 x 21.5" Samsung Monitors
And motherboard
I WANT Windows 8

I bought 32gb ram just cause the system was able to expand to that.

I trade bonds, commodities, ETFs, forex, gold, options, REITs, and stocks in various OTC markets.
So for my work purpose I need 3 monitors with extended desktop, and a FAST processor for handling multiple applications such a trading platform, charting platform, live stock data feed, etc.

I ordered 3 brand new Samsung LS22B150N 21.5" LED monitors
Further specs: all of which have VGA connectivity. http://goo.gl/m1Brk

Resolution requirements for the card: 1920 x 1080



PostalTwinkie or FlashFir or anyone really, can you help with the build? Thank you


Ahhh so no gaming? Just office productivity?

You understand without specifying what you're using a computer for... this is an overclocking forum. AKA: Gamers.
post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 
Yes, maybe ill throw bf3 for those odd long weekend getaways.

The visual real estate is needed for my purpose. Also if I return 2 memory ram drives $44 each and get the some cheap 7850 card (probably XFX) would that be suitable for my current build?

I don't wanna have to upgrade my system for at least 4-5 years. Thanks again.
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by partytime View Post

Yes, maybe ill throw bf3 for those odd long weekend getaways.

The visual real estate is needed for my purpose. Also if I return 2 memory ram drives $44 each and get the some cheap 7850 card (probably XFX) would that be suitable for my current build?

I don't wanna have to upgrade my system for at least 4-5 years. Thanks again.

You're serious? Well a 7850 would be well, way more than sufficient. Keep it I'd say. Not upgrading GPU in 4-5 years? It'll be old but... 7850 would have enough muscle for a gamer like you (not a very big one) for quite some time. Any lower card and you might have to upgrade to another low end card LATER sooner.


I'd recommend trying out 2560x1440p monitors, I got mine for $290, normally they're $400 here if they're Korean IPS.
post #16 of 18
Thread Starter 
I've never really played pc games since War Rock I'm pretty sure that game isn't even online anymore but it was one of the highlights of my gaming addictions back in the 7th-8th grade (4-6 hours daily) I have bf3 for Xbox but this computer is mainly for work purposes but I'll download bf3 just to have it there for those odd times. Now that I'm older I don't really have time for those 'time well wasted' anymore.
post #17 of 18
How will he actually send signal to all 3 displays with one low end card? I thought only a few high end cards could do 3, all vga?
Edited by V!v!d - 1/30/13 at 11:41am
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post #18 of 18
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How will he actually send signal to all 3 displays with one low end card? I thought only a few high end cards could do 3, all vga?

He will need a card that has DVI-I, not DVI-D, HDMI, and Display ports. He can then get adapters to go Display Port > VGA, DVI-I > VGA, and HDMI > VGA. Then he can setup Extended Desktop and push the desktop to the three panels. But the cards DVI port has to be DVI-I and not DVI-D as DVI-D is digital only, and won't convert to VGA.

As for the system itself, you would be fine with something like....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 – MAX IOPS Edition 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $661.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-30 22:20 EST-0500)

The video card is a wee bit overkill for what you said, and you could very easily swap it out for the lower cost Nvidia 650 Ti, which in itself is more than enough for the business work you are doing....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127704&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

After the above, just add your OS of choice, Windows Home Premium 64-bit or "higher", and you would be off to the races.

EDIT: Here is an Intel based system, a little more expensive, and honestly wouldn't be of much gain to you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B75A-G43 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 – MAX IOPS Edition 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $731.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-30 22:26 EST-0500)

The advantage of the AMD system, the first, is the fact you will have 6 threads to work with. If you find yourself in a heavily threaded situation, it could be possible with what you are doing, you might want those extra threads.
Edited by PostalTwinkie - 1/30/13 at 7:27pm
    
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Achieva Shimian QH270-Lite Overlord Computer Tempest X27OC  Acer Predator XB270HU Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja 
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