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Regardless of the PSU debate, I'm trying to find a way for OP to shave off a hundred from the original build so he could throw a GTX 650 in there.

m4 is going for 104.99 on Amazon, so that's 20 bucks saved from the 840 Pro.
Subbing in a 3330 for a 3770k is another 40.
You can get 8 GB of DDR3-1600 for as little as 35.00, so there's another 40.

Alternately, is there any way to bring down, say, the price of the case so he could keep the 840 Pro?

EDIT: Clarifying that I meant a GTX 650 to avoid confusion going forward.
Edited by PiOfPie - 1/30/13 at 12:00am
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But as I explained above, what good is a 650W power supply if he'll never have a video card?  I mean as he said, he never plays video games.  Even if he does get a video card, then what video card would he need?  A 7750?  So again:  even the Rosewill Capstone 450-M is overkill, but at least it's a high-quality modular PSU as opposed to an average non-modular unit.

 

If SeaSonic's 360W G Series PSU were a modular PSU, then I'd be recommending that one.  However, if he studies the difference between modular and non-modular and looks into the Pros and Cons of each and still says he'd be ok with a non-modular PSU, then this is the PSU that I would recommend due to his extremely low power requirements.  It would still be overkill, but at least it would be a more appropriate fit so that we're not having a 5-10% load on the PSU 24/7.  That's bad not only in terms of efficiency, but it's hard on the PSU!

 

Am I the only one who's clear on what he's going to be using this computer for?


Edited by TwoCables - 1/29/13 at 11:53pm
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post #23 of 66
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But as I explained above, what good is a 650W power supply if he'll never have a video card?

Assuming you're talking to me, I mean a GTX 650, not a 650W PSU. My bad for not specifying when you guys are discussing 650W PSUs. smile.gif

If you weren't talking to me, my bad again. biggrin.gif
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i5 3570/i7 3770
b75/h77 motherboard
8 - 16gb ram
120/128gb ssd
1 - 2tb hdd
~400w psu

as for a graphics card, based on your usage, the intel hd4000 would be more than fine.
not gonna get into it, but cuda won't benefit your photography work.. photoshop uses the mercury engine.

i can put together a more detailed list if you like with specific components.

KyadCK, stop arguing.. it's been thoroughly explained that he does not need a 650w psu!

see KyadCK, it pays to stick to what you know thumb.gif
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However, since he said CPU only, then ya, a 450 would give the overhead. Consider this post an academical argument I guess.

Ya...

Also, if GPGPU solutions didn't help photoshop, they would not have given it OpenCL support. Stick to what you know dude:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/photoshop-cs6-gimp-aftershot-pro,3208-13.html

Oh hey, twice as fast at minimum completely across the board when using OpenCL, and Cuda works the same way, only is a better option because you would have to have CS6 for OpenCL support while it has supported Cuda for a while now.

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Regardless of the PSU debate, I'm trying to find a way for OP to shave off a hundred from the original build so he could throw a 650 in there.

m4 is going for 104.99 on Amazon, so that's 20 bucks saved from the 840 Pro.
Subbing in a 3330 for a 3770k is another 40.
You can get 8 GB of DDR3-1600 for as little as 35.00, so there's another 40.

Alternately, is there any way to bring down, say, the price of the case so he could keep the 840 Pro?

If he truly will not add a GPU, or if the GPU is midrange, he will have no use at all for a 650w PSU, so don't worry about it.

Also, he put his budget cap at $2000 (which is insane for this type of build, even with monitor and everything), and he's currently sitting at $1200 or so. He's fine.


Aaaand as an edit akin to Two Cable's below, a GTX 650 would fit in easily, yes.
Edited by KyadCK - 1/30/13 at 12:02am
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post #25 of 66
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Assuming you're talking to me, I mean a GTX 650, not a 650W PSU. My bad for not specifying when you guys are discussing 650W PSUs. smile.gif

If you weren't talking to me, my bad again. biggrin.gif

 

Oh no, my bad.  I was indeed talking to you.  I misunderstood because you said, "Regardless of the PSU debate".  lol  I'm sorry.

 

I'll leave my post in there anyway because I believe everything happens for a reason.

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Let me just point out how a overclocked 3750k + GTX 670 SLI system pulls about 375W under full prime95 + furmark load. Ridiculous to think that one GPU system would ever need anything above 500W.
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I want to spend between $1000-1200, so tough on budget.

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Also, he put his budget cap at $2000.

I feel like I missed something. If this is the case, I'd definitely recommend something for CUDA along with what he has.
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Let me just point out how a overclocked 3750k + GTX 670 SLI system pulls about 375W under full prime95 + furmark load. Ridiculous to think that one GPU system would ever need anything above 500W.

Oh I really want to see these numbers...

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I want to spend between $1000-1200, so tough on budget.

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Also, he put his budget cap at $2000.

I feel like I missed something. If this is the case, I'd definitely recommend something for CUDA along with what he has.

No, you're right, I did misread. I thought that was a heck of a range, and now it makes sense.
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Oh I really want to see these numbers...

Are those numbers pulled from mains, or is that after efficiency has been factored in?

(same question goes for you, Fulvin)
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it was calculated from the psu efficiency and wattage was measured from wall.
Edited by Fulvin - 1/30/13 at 12:22am
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