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terrible charts. also 5.5% increase in IPC? dont think so. I'm going off intel's normal stuff here when i say ~10% increase is the norm

meh. Intel wants lower power usage, not better IPC. They're still ahead of AMD big time. So expect the biggest difference between Ivy and Haswell to be the power usage.
 
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terrible charts. also 5.5% increase in IPC? dont think so. I'm going off intel's normal stuff here when i say ~10% increase is the norm

meh. Intel wants lower power usage, not better IPC. They're still ahead of AMD in gaming big time. So expect the biggest difference between Ivy and Haswell to be the power usage.

FTFY.

5% is on the low side, considering what was tested I'd imagine the real world difference is 5%-10% with ~6% being average, but probably better OCing than IB ensuring better performance overall. (IPC isn't everything)
Keep in mind, 5% put AMD from being well and truly behind Intel in virtually every scenario to actually competing with the i5 for people who do stuff other than game.
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That's a silly thing to say, Some people need more cores/threads and quad channel memory bandwidth.
Not everyone plays games you know.

Is that quad-channel memory bandwidth something that would help in CAD when the CPU becomes the choke point? I've been working against CAD problems forever it seems. I don't need lots of cores, but clock and RAM and ___????

Right now, I've got a i7-2600(not k?) with 32G of RAM. My w5000 GPU is coming in Tuesday... if the fridge rig is still choking, I was thinking a dual socket xeon setup would be the next step up for memory performance. Get 64GB and try starting with one cpu.

Soooo, I'm thinking I'm not really interested in Haswell, huh?

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who's the necromancer that reanimated this thread?
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The guy above you xD
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Because it has been implied by many sources and we have no idea how the thermal paste (yes thermal paste, not just TIM, solder would also be TIM) will affect OCing. To some people even if it affects the chips like ivy, it won't matter because of sub-zero cooling.

Also ideal for overclocking depends on a person's needs. From my pov IB is much better for OCing than sandy is.

Mind explaining why?

Would make me feel much better about going for a 3570K/Z77 instead of 2600/Z68 system. redface.gif
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who's the necromancer that reanimated this thread?

Haha!
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damn necros

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Is that quad-channel memory bandwidth something that would help in CAD when the CPU becomes the choke point? I've been working against CAD problems forever it seems. I don't need lots of cores, but clock and RAM and ___????

Right now, I've got a i7-2600(not k?) with 32G of RAM. My w5000 GPU is coming in Tuesday... if the fridge rig is still choking, I was thinking a dual socket xeon setup would be the next step up for memory performance. Get 64GB and try starting with one cpu.

Soooo, I'm thinking I'm not really interested in Haswell, huh?

- Chris
Your 2600K has only 8 threads while the 2 high end 2011 chips have 12 threads, you might benefit from that. Quad channel RAM might help as well, but it will depend at what frequency you run it. You can always wait til September and get Ivy-E, or get a K CPU and overclock it, its free performance and anyone can do it effortlessly.
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Is that quad-channel memory bandwidth something that would help in CAD when the CPU becomes the choke point? I've been working against CAD problems forever it seems. I don't need lots of cores, but clock and RAM and ___????

Right now, I've got a i7-2600(not k?) with 32G of RAM. My w5000 GPU is coming in Tuesday... if the fridge rig is still choking, I was thinking a dual socket xeon setup would be the next step up for memory performance. Get 64GB and try starting with one cpu.

Soooo, I'm thinking I'm not really interested in Haswell, huh?

- Chris

For curiosity sake what CAD program are you using? The one I've played with seem to scale well with core count.
 
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