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Relevance is relative to the reader's perspective.

So while this article may appear useless to you; they are quite useful for people that are into the whole "benching" thing.

When you are comparing it to a FX-8150 and current gen AMD processors don't even appear in the charts, the test is completely rendered useless as there is no point of comparison.
   
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10% ipc and over 5ghz overclocking is all I need to upgrade to it
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When you are comparing it to a FX-8150 and current gen AMD processors don't even appear in the charts, the test is completely rendered useless as there is no point of comparison.

But they're not comparing it to any AMD processor... They compared it to Intel's 3770K and nothing else. And just to be clear; what OCLab.ru calls "popular applications" is not the same as what a place like Anandtech would call "popular applications". I can tell you, with a high degree of certainty, that the folks over at OCLab.ru could care less about which chip performs better for gaming or any other "regular applications". Think of them as the guys that belong to the Benchmarking team here at OCN (ranked 4th in the world). People can argue over what chip is better for gaming, or which chip is better "bang for the buck"... But in the end; the "extreme benchmarkers" like the guys from OCLab, the OCN benching team, the team I belong to only care about five or six benchmarks that have little to no bearing on real life performance. We like them because those are the ones we compete on.
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But they're not comparing it to any AMD processor... They compared it to Intel's 3770K and nothing else.

Then why throw into the charts the FX-8150 and the X6 1100T? It's pointless.

Oh, and I am also in OCN's HWBot team, albeit at a different level (I only benchmark AGP hardware). thumb.gif

I know these guys at OCLab.ru too... Been around HWBot for several years now, even if my financial possibilities don't allow me to do any kinds of serious benching smile.gif
   
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I'm not gonna pay much attention to haswell benches right now. I wana see how this thing overclocks before I decide if I want to upgrade.
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Hope this isnt true.... alot of my buddy's (intel fanboys) have been waiting to upgrade from sandy to haswell.... I hope for them this is just a crappy 1st lvl ES, but from laptops/ultrabooks this'll probs be awesome assuming the IGP is really good
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I think it will be a great upgrade from 1366, 1156 and 1155 first gen CPUs. Not so much from Ivy Bridge or X79.
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I would not expect leaps and bound better then IVY. Why? Because of IVY-E. If Haswell is that much better then nobody will get IVY-E. Probably still geared towards low power/IGP.
That's a silly thing to say, Some people need more cores/threads and quad channel memory bandwidth.
Not everyone plays games you know.
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Who has the huge amount of R&D money? Intel. Who would you expect to make big jumps in performance?

Anyway... Haswell was supposed to improve on the IGP, right? So it doesn't bother me much that performance isn't a huge jump. Although, according to Intel'sTick/Tock strategy it WAS supposed to be a big jump in performance.

Whatever, we'll see when the product is released.

Glad to see someone gets it. From the very beginning Haswell seemed to be focused on improving the IGP performance to make them competitive with AMD's APUs in the mobile and general use desktop market. While AMD falls behind Intel in CPU performance, their APUs are wiping the floor with Intel's IGP. To get a big spike in IGP performance, something had to give somewhere, that somewhere just happened to be some of the die space for the CPU.
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~5% IPC gain matches the results I've seen privately from early testers, at least with current apps.
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