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How much more is the Big Bang over the Extreme6 where you're purchasing from?

It's also unfortunate that you had a bad experience with Gigabyte, as their current boards have arguably the best VRMs on the market.

And I apologize, the one I meant to recommend in my last post was the X79-UP4. Again, top of the line VRM on this board. Exceptional for overclocking.

I'm going by Newegg's prices, and the Extreme6 is 219+8.50 shipping and the big bang xpower II is 299 F.S.

The UP-4 looks absolutely amazing, though. I clicked on the UP5 review thread and saw a post where a fellow member was experiencing the cold boot issue, and I don't want to go through that again. It was frustrating beyond belief. I don't know if the UP4 has it though, maybe it's problem with certain CPUs, idk...
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Good hardware is only part of what makes a good board. Good firmware is at least as important.

I have an X79S-UP5 and it has seriously shaken my confidence in Gigabyte. I've had the board for nearly four months now, and at this rate it will be another six months before they have firmware I'd consider to be of release quality.

VRM is exceptional, overall build quality is excellent, layout is near flawless...the board was still virtually unusable until a week ago when they fixed a major throttling issue, and still has many bugs and quirks.

My P9X79 WS is a much better overclocker. About 300MHz better, on both CPU and memory, all other things being equal (same CPU, cooling, memory, power, everything). I'm still returning the P9X79 WS, because it not issue free either, and I can still get a full refund on it from Amazon.

I do hope and expect most of the issues will be worked out with the UP5, but if I were building a new LGA-2011 system today, I don't think I would even consider a Gigabyte board.
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Good hardware is only part of what makes a good board. Good firmware is at least as important.

I have an X79S-UP5 and it has seriously shaken my confidence in Gigabyte. I've had the board for nearly four months now, and at this rate it will be another six months before they have firmware I'd consider to be of release quality.

VRM is exceptional, overall build quality is excellent, layout is near flawless...the board was still virtually unusable until a week ago when they fixed a major throttling issue, and still has many bugs and quirks.

My P9X79 WS is a much better overclocker. About 300MHz better, on both CPU and memory, all other things being equal (same CPU, cooling, memory, power, everything). I'm still returning the P9X79 WS, because it not issue free either, and I can still get a full refund on it from Amazon.

I do hope and expect most of the issues will be worked out with the UP5, but if I were building a new LGA-2011 system today, I don't think I would even consider a Gigabyte board.

I can live with a 300mhz clock speed difference but it's the cold boot issue I can't stand. My system can run stable for days or even months but then suddenly refuse to start after a GPU induced BSOD or a hard reset. If you don't mind me asking, what are the specific issues you've been experiencing?
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That looks like an awesome deal, but unfortunately it's out of stock in the paterson micro center. Thanks for the link though, I'll keep an eye out for it.

Any other recommendations?

Edit:
I was planning on getting this board, see my sig biggrin.gif But then again the very low price is off putting. Since I can go up to 300$, I was wondering if there were any better boards out there.

I can understand that. But the fact is, it ocs just as good and has all the features of any sub $300 board. If you dont want asrock. Just get a sabertooth.

EDIT: If you are going to P-Town... You could grab one of these:

http://microcenter.com/product/403766/GA-X79-UP4_LGA_2011_X79_ATX_Intel_Motherboard#

MC does not have much of an x79 selection... They had much more when I got my x79 6 months ago... They may have something that's not on the website.
Edited by Rmerwede - 1/30/13 at 7:28pm
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I can live with a 300mhz clock speed difference but it's the cold boot issue I can't stand. My system can run stable for days or even months but then suddenly refuse to start after a GPU induced BSOD or a hard reset. If you don't mind me asking, what are the specific issues you've been experiencing?

With the most recent BIOS, I'm still experiencing:

- Idle BSOD and cold boot issues past 4.3GHz, at least on my particular chip. To be fair, my ASUS board had similar cold-boot issues with the 44x and 45x multipliers, but 46 and 47x worked fine (they are no POST on this board).

- Poor memory overclocking in general, especially with all DIMMs populated

- Utterly unable to overclock with the 1.25x strap on my 3930k (it will boot, but only with a massive underclock).

- Mouse doesn't work in UEFI (not a big deal really)

- PS/2 keyboards cannot be used to enter BIOS setup.

- Window to enter BIOS setup is very short.
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Thanks, I really appreciate it. Rep+

Too many issues for me justify a purchase in hope of future fixes. The hardware might be top notch but as you said it means nothing without proper firmware.

After much consideration and reviews I think I'm gonna go with the Big Bang Xpower II. As cheap and ridiculous those heatsinks look, every review I've read says it's a great overclock and an amazing board overall. The extreme6 is also a good overclocker but it doesn't have as many features as the BB, and I think I can justify the premium for not having to upgrade in the future.

Vortez and Hardocp were both really impressed with it, and vortez actually managed to boot with a 3960x at 5.075ghz, highest they've seen.
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i always use asus and i have a R4G right now and i love it with my 3820
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i always use asus and i have a R4G right now and i love it with my 3820
The rampage IV gene comes in at 279 and looks like a great board, but the lack of pcie slots kinda kill it for me. The motherboard is also really small, I like a big spacious motherboard to work with biggrin.gif
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I'm going by Newegg's prices, and the Extreme6 is 219+8.50 shipping and the big bang xpower II is 299 F.S.

The UP-4 looks absolutely amazing, though. I clicked on the UP5 review thread and saw a post where a fellow member was experiencing the cold boot issue, and I don't want to go through that again. It was frustrating beyond belief. I don't know if the UP4 has it though, maybe it's problem with certain CPUs, idk...

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Good hardware is only part of what makes a good board. Good firmware is at least as important.

I have an X79S-UP5 and it has seriously shaken my confidence in Gigabyte. I've had the board for nearly four months now, and at this rate it will be another six months before they have firmware I'd consider to be of release quality.

VRM is exceptional, overall build quality is excellent, layout is near flawless...the board was still virtually unusable until a week ago when they fixed a major throttling issue, and still has many bugs and quirks.

My P9X79 WS is a much better overclocker. About 300MHz better, on both CPU and memory, all other things being equal (same CPU, cooling, memory, power, everything). I'm still returning the P9X79 WS, because it not issue free either, and I can still get a full refund on it from Amazon.

I do hope and expect most of the issues will be worked out with the UP5, but if I were building a new LGA-2011 system today, I don't think I would even consider a Gigabyte board.

The UP5 has a different Intel C606 northbridge, which is actually very buggy. Not doing very well in the OCing department either, even with it's fantastic VRM design. This only affects the X79 UP5, as the Z77 UP5 is as solid as they come.

That's why I specifically recommended the UP4. This one uses the X79 chipset and does not suffer from the issues Blameless listed above.

And again, these UP boards have arguably the best VRMs on the market right now. It's just a shame they had to use a different chipset on the UP5.

Hope this clears some stuff up.
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The UP5 has a different Intel C606 northbridge, which is actually very buggy. Not doing very well in the OCing department either, even with it's fantastic VRM design. This only affects the X79 UP5, as the Z77 UP5 is as solid as they come.

That's why I specifically recommended the UP4. This one uses the X79 chipset and does not suffer from the issues Blameless listed above.

And again, these UP boards have arguably the best VRMs on the market right now. It's just a shame they had to use a different chipset on the UP5.

Hope this clears some stuff up.

Ah, thanks for the info, rep+

But I had cold boot issues with my 990FX Gigabyte board too, something to think about....

Between the Xpower II and this, which would you guys go for? Keep in mind that on every single review I read the Xpower achieved a higher overclock, and holds the 7th position in the world for 3930K frequency. I'm leaning towards the x power atm, just because of that monster power phase and it's better overclockability compared to the Gigabyte.
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