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Originally Posted by B-rock View Post

Can you show me in a phone contract where it says that I'm leasing the phone?

You get the phone for a discounted price because they know they are guaranteed 2 years of service out of you, they make it cheaper for you in the beginning to make it more affordable but more expensive in the long run.

From what I know it has NOTHING to do with you actually owning the phone. From the way you make it sound they could physically just take my phone away at any given time and still force me to keep paying for the contract unless I pay for the cancellation fee. I'd love to see Verizon try to repo my phone.

This. The only time they can actually take your phone away from you is if you cancel the contract halfway though it, or if you don't pay the bill. Once the contract is over, the phone is yours and you can do whatever you want with it.
    
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You don't get the phone for a discounted price. You are paying full price for the phone spread out in your monthly payments, which you are locked into by a contract for so many years. That's why they have early termination fees, and require a credit check.

It's a gimmick at best.
read your contract. u are buying your phone for a price written in contract. after u sing in your contract u can smash it, sell it or should be able to root it or whatever else you want to do. contract also says something about monthly payment for SERVISE provided for you by company, but that service does not include LEASING your phone. YOU ARE BUYING IT!
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Sigh for the last time people...YOU DON"T OWN A PHONE FROM A CARRIER IF YOU DIDN"T PAY FULL PRICE FOR IT! How hard is that to get into your heads? How about this....you don't own a movie you rent from...well Blockbuster is gone so ummm Netflix...DO YOU? It's like no one reads or reads between the lines. Honestly, you'd think all these conspiracy and distrusting people would read the fine print they put their signatures on. I swear maybe they should have a line just to test if anyone read it and it goes "If you read this line congrats...10 off per month for you...sign this other line here.....If you didn't read the prior line then sucks for you. 10 more per month added to your bill."

You might not have paid full price for it, but you signed a contract.
I don't see why the hell you can't unlock the cellphone if you continue paying the contract you made.
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The report of the Librarian of Congress concluded that consumers had an adequate ability to unlock their cell phones, either buy purchasing an unlocked cell phone separately in the marketplace (at full retail price) or as made available for purchase through wireless carriers. As a result, the exception to the DMCA that allowed unlocking cell phones should end since permitting consumers to continue this practice would cause significant harm the wireless phone industry. The amendment to the DMCA removing the cell phone exemption will be effective beginning January 26, 2013, which will apply regarding all phones purchased after (but not prior to) this date.

The article specifies that this also applies to cellphones purchased at full price but locked to a carrier.

First, if you bought the phone without a contract this "law" simply doesn't apply to you. You own the phone and it is your property.

However, if you get your phone with a contract then...
If the contract states that you can't unlock your phone, then you can't.

I can see companies going after people, who are reselling contract phones for full price, in a CIVIL COURT and seeking restitution in money for the damages occurred (full price of phone and contract fees; this would be up to a judge though).

But this is not what this thread is about.

This thread is about CRIMINAL PROSECUTION for unlocking the phone.

That is asinine and belittles the criminal court system, which should be reserved to crimes deserving of jail time.
post #174 of 281
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Originally Posted by Stevo View Post

So are police just gonna wander the streets now to tell people to show them their phones to see if its unlocked?

Pretty much this.

Police aren't allowed to ask a person if they are in this country illegally or not, I seriously doubt they will be able to ask if your cell phone is illegally unlocked or not. Who knows, maybe in 30 years, we'll have an amnesty program for "undocumented phones" and they will be allowed to stay unlocked after they pay a small fine. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Pretty much this.

Police aren't allowed to ask a person if they are in this country illegally or not, I seriously doubt they will be able to ask if your cell phone is illegally unlocked or not. rolleyes.gif

unless you live in Arizona...murica....
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unless you live in Arizona...murica....

I live in Arizona, and my skin color is not the "majority." I say it in quotes, because... really? Anyway, every time I was pulled over since, I was never once asked if I was here illegally.


Might want to revise that statement.
    
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You don't get the phone for a discounted price. You are paying full price for the phone spread out in your monthly payments, which you are locked into by a contract for so many years. That's why they have early termination fees, and require a credit check.

It's a gimmick at best.

Just because they offer it at a lower price and then require something on top of that doesn't mean that you don't own the device itself. That's just called the company making the sale being dumb.

Unless there is a statement somewhere saying that it's in fact leasing a product then the product belongs to the guy/gal who bought it at the reduced price.
 
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I live in Arizona, and my skin color is not the "majority." I say it in quotes, because... really? Anyway, every time I was pulled over since, I was never once asked if I was here illegally.


Might want to revise that statement.

but youtube said......!

I lived in Florida for awhile, now I'm in South Cakalakey.

It's ok to be embarrassed of your state wink.gif.
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Land of the free... hahahahah yeh right.
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Just so I'm clear, unlocking is not the same as rooting, right? From my understanding, unlocking allows you to switch carriers, while rooting just allows you to install custom roms and remove bloatware and other unwanted programs. Am I right here?
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