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Thread Starter 
http://www.overclock.net/t/1354275/opinions-suggestions-for-computer-alterations-please

I ordered these (total before MiR: $240, after MiR: $200):
- THOR V2 -- $120
- Thermaltake TPG-750M Toughpower Grand GOLD 750W
- Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM

However, I thought I had the Intel/AMD choice done, but I don't. It was pointed out that Intel mobo's are cheaper than AMD's for better performance. So while the FX-8350 is a great value, if compared as a combo with mobo the story changes a little bit. I'm trying to get best bang for buck.


GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD5 -- $165 (-$20 MiR)
or
ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z -- $230
FX-8350 -- $190
$335, $420

vs.

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 -- $135 (-$10 MiR)
Intel Core i7-3770K @3.5GHz -- $300, Intel Core i7-2700K -- ~$300, Intel Core i5-3570K -- ~$220
$425, $425, $345



-H60 -- $65 (-$20 MiR)

-Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus -- $30 (-$10 MiR)

- LQ-310 -- $65 (-$35 MiR)

- Noctua NF F12 PWM -- $25

- Cooler Master Excalibur -- $18 (-$10 MiR)


Which is most efficient at keeping CPU cool. I searched around and found conflicting answers?


Blu Ray Drive $25

PNY XLR8 Sata III SSD 120GB: $88

Verbatim 120 GB -- $85.10

Samsung 830 128GB-- $85



I already have an AMD Radeon HD 7850 and 2x8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 1866. I also will be taking my current HDD and moving it over as well. It is a 640GB 7200rpm HDD.
Edited by General Mars - 1/31/13 at 5:44pm
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post #2 of 37
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Questions updated.
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Well what are you doing with it? Gaming? Other? Be specific in terms of software programs.
    
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Thread Starter 
Gaming.
Type:
-MMO
-RTS
-FPS

Also watch a significant amount of video (GOM player, DIVX, VLC, etc.), no editing however.
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In the rare case it actually matters (most of the time it will not), Intel will be notably better for you. And the i5-3570k will perform the same as the i7-3770k.
    
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Thread Starter 
I appreciate the input. Does anyone have an answer for this?:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1353302/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-3570k-oc-using-an-evga-gtx-670
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I can understand why people usually opt for Intel over AMD.... but.... are you really using the reasoning that you would rather save $30 on the motherboard and spend $200 more on the processor? Especially with Intel getting ready to change the socket again?
I have a Phenom2 that I bought 2 years ago and I just updated my motherboard to am3 last year and was able to plop my cpu right in. Here soon I plan on upgrading my cpu and will have no problem dropping the new processor right into my existing setup. AMD may not have it all in the ever-going processor power wars but in exchange there is price versus performance and compatability. You may want to think if going Intel is really worth a few extra frames in some games.
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post #8 of 37
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I was going to go FX-8350//mobo, however then all these people were like "8350 only better becuz stock settings, it really sux...Intel ftw when OC"

I was like ok well I am no fan boy, I just want whatever is best for my $$.

Edit: there was also the point that the AMD Mobo can't handle past like 1600 2x8GB or something as well with G.Skill Ram?
Edited by General Mars - 1/30/13 at 9:53pm
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The amount of RAM AMD can handle is irrelevant. 8 is plenty for gaming. Look, Intel is better in niche situations... but it is better. The time it takes AI to calculate a turn in Civ 5 will be a little shorter. Large-army battles in late game SC2 multiplayer will have better FPS. Larger battles with max unit numbers and sizes will be better in Shogun 2: Total War. There are a few other examples. But mostly i5-3570k will perform the same as fx-8350. When there's a difference (in gaming(, the i5-3570k will almost always come out on top.
    
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Thread Starter 
Then why do some things indicate that the 8350 is better?

@stock:
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core 9,230 $189.99
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz 7,138 $219.99

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eu8Sekdb-IE

Overclock:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1353302/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-3570k-oc-using-an-evga-gtx-670
Edited by General Mars - 1/30/13 at 10:44pm
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