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Ive been doing kitchen work for the last 10 yrs. And nothing to show for it, besides a now hurt back(summer 2012) but it kept me and the wife from living with my parents, but thats the only good thing......Im also stuck with paying for all my medical bills, and what it takes to take care of myself now. $8, no benfits, after 8 yrs at my cuurent kitchem, plus what Im paying for medical bills, sucks balls....


Im looking at going back to school this Fall 2013. Looking at a AAS at 60 hours, not the one that transfer to a 4year.

2yr school:
http://uaccm.edu/Academics/Degree%20Requirements/ComputerSys_AAS.htm

I went a half semester (went back right after I hurt my back, ya, silly me) and had to drop out, but the teachers and admin were super awesome. And I got alot of one on one. Also this is my wife 3 semester at this school and also has had great experience as well, different major.


Im looking for feedback, Looking at doing this 2yr AAS, then going to work(hopefully) and then maybe getting lucky with the new job, let would let me finnish at a four yr school and fin my Bachelors VS just doing the AAS VS doing a tranfers program, then going to a four yr. If I did the tranfer program, I wouldnt get most of the IT classes, and the ono on one Im wanting...

thoughts,
KS

EDIT, Yes, I am going to adult ed now, working on my grammar and spelling..........
Edited by knightsilver - 1/30/13 at 9:26pm
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Most importantly... is there a demand for CIS in your area? If not, are you willing to move?
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Most importantly... is there a demand for CIS in your area? If not, are you willing to move?

Sure, thats the first thing I asked my adviser, he said its pretty good ATM, and starting to pick up more. But who knows in a few years when Im done.

The wife and I would love to move back to Eastern Idaho, but the economy has been so bad there for the last 5 yrs. We were told if we moved back home, we'd get a real talking to by family......But maybe that would change later.

And yes, we are willing to move, I might of grown up here in Arkansas, but not tied down. But at least rent is cheap down here, about the only good thing about living in a poor''er state.

Here's a pics of home: Eastern Idaho





Well, did some Monster, and looks like the Boise Idaho area has a ATM better IT market than our current area here in Arkansas, about twice as many IT jobs.

I didnt know Boise had these guys: Im such a Noob sometimes.....

image and article here: http://stateimpact.npr.org/idaho/tag/micron/


But even if we could move to Boise, thats only 5 hours drive from home. But who know what things will look like in a few yrs.........

Thx,
KS
Edited by knightsilver - 1/31/13 at 6:37am
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Seems like a good idea.

I'm actually in a Networking and IT Security program at the moment in UOIT in Canada.

One thing you could look into is Certifications.
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Ya! Might be what Im looking at, the AAS(2yr Applied Associates) with CCIE, my advisor did agree. Told Id still wouldnt make as much at a with a Bachelors, but Im OK with that. Just wanted some feedback, on my options......Later on, I could always go back to get my bachelors, but dont get me started on corporate monkeys.....

Id rather have a smaller regular pay chaeck VS a medium paycheck for only a few months and get laid off, LOL....

The way things are going, ISP's ( Cellular companies too, even though they'r greedy little heartless punks) would be looking for more help? Im not above putting food on the table for the wife and me....

KS
Edited by knightsilver - 1/31/13 at 6:24pm
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Oh boy...

You can give this school a shot. They tend to find jobs for their graduates. http://www.itt-tech.edu/

As far as your back goes. In IT jobs, you are required to stand for an X amount each day, lift heavy object and sit in uncomfortable chair, unless you buy your own chair.


You said you dont care about making a lot of money. So the simplest and easiest route, is get A+, get a job at BestBuy or at Microcenter as a tech, making an average of $35k, $40k if you work over time. With A+, Staples will pay you around $30k as a tech, but you are required to sell an X amount of their products on top of repairing computers.

You will learn a lot of basics, and at the same time you can go to Tech school to earn a better degree.
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A+ won't get you anywhere.... don't even bother starting in retail. It's a dead-end in the long-run (or even in the near-term).
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A+ won't get you anywhere.... don't even bother starting in retail. It's a dead-end in the long-run (or even in the near-term).

Really?

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He will earn a paycheck as he learns the basics as he works on computers. At the same time he will be going to school and earning a better degree.

I worked at Microcenter as a Tech for a year. I learned nothing because i already knew what i was doing, but it put food on the table, paid bills, and gave me time to find a better job.

A job is a job. If you never worked in retail it will give you many lessons that you will never acquire on any job. Retail is a cut throat business, its not the bottom of the barrel as working as a janitor, but you do grow a thicker skin.

And retail is NOT always a dead end job. If you put in the years, time, long hours, you can ended up as a manager, which can lead to corporate position. Or much sooner if you kiss right asses.
Home Depot managers have nice houses, drive nice cars, have families with several children. Yet they work in retail.

Show me a retail supervisor or some sort of mediocre management position person who lives in a shoe box. Go on, i would love to meet such person.

When i worked in Microcenter, there are sales people who have worked for the company for 20 years plus, making a good living and supporting their family at the same time. Its just like being a car salesman.
Even Donald Trump is nothing more then a salesman that you will find at your local retail store, but he knows how to sell snow to Eskimos, and that is why he is rich.

Or how about car dealerships. Walk in to service department, and half the people are in their 50s and 60s. With kids who are in college. All paid by so called retail money.

Retail is retail. no matter where you work. If you work on commission, then you are working in retail. Some retail jobs bring in more coin then others.

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Edited by KGB7 - 2/6/13 at 12:03am
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College is almost useless in the IT industry, its all about certifications and real world experience in the field. Take it from someone who's been a Network Administrator for 10 years making over 75k a year with zero college degrees. I've worked for several different companies. college was never even mentioned in the interviews or application process.
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