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Hello, Im having a problem about hard drives and im not sure what to do.
I have a boot ssd and 2 hard drive in Raid0 for storage.
I got a notification today about one of my hard drives in my raid was failling.
They are 2 500gb drive.
I know its not easy replacing HDD that are in a raid 0, so i want to know my options here.
Is it possible to replace just the failing hdd for a new one by cloning it?
If not, can i clone my whole raid0 in a new 1tb hdd and replace it without getting bugs from windows because its a new hdd and not the raid0 anymore?
Is there a better way to do this? And maybe doing a raid10 next time to avoid this problem?

Thanks a lot for your time!
post #2 of 9
I am assuming firmware/host-based RAID and not software RAID?

Yes, if you clone a striped HDD and replaced the drive... it would work.
You could also clone array to a single disk and that would work.

Either way, the OS should not care since it just sees storage as storage.

HOWEVER, always back up your data. Just remember, your OS can be reinstalled. Your personal data cannot.

RAID10 isn't worth it to consumers.
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Your options are as follows:

You only have one - Backup everything you can from the RAID 0 while it still works.

Replace both drives while you are at it

Reinstall everything
Restore.

This is the best option I can provide. Store all information that you are not willing to loose on a separate location.

EDIT: Sniped by ducky - Or you can do what Ducky says. Before you go cloning anything, make sure you back everything up.
 
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Thanks for your support guys. I tried cloning my whole RAID and an error appears in Acronis and it cant back it up frown.gif I guess I will have to reinstall everything and just copy/paste my important personal files to my external HDD.
But I do hope it works because I need those files and softwares now because of a university project and I don't have time now to re-install everything.

Last question (desperate here tongue.gif), even if it tells me an error that it can't back up but I still can navigate through the drives, is there another way to clone other then Acronis and that it will work (windows backup does the same error). Sort of tricking the OS or something?

Thanks for your time again!
post #5 of 9
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Thanks for your support guys. I tried cloning my whole RAID and an error appears in Acronis and it cant back it up frown.gif I guess I will have to reinstall everything and just copy/paste my important personal files to my external HDD.
But I do hope it works because I need those files and softwares now because of a university project and I don't have time now to re-install everything.

Last question (desperate here tongue.gif), even if it tells me an error that it can't back up but I still can navigate through the drives, is there another way to clone other then Acronis and that it will work (windows backup does the same error). Sort of tricking the OS or something?

Thanks for your time again!
For file backup just use something like "freefilesync" for most of your data and mirror folders over to a new drive.
post #6 of 9
Take an external drive and drag and drop all the data from your failing Raid0 array into the external.

Replace the failing drives, and then drop your data back in. Its a longer process, but easier at the same time.
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post #7 of 9
If there aren't special files written to your array to make programs written to your ssd function, you can drag and drop to another drive. some 1tb drives may be faster than your current array and cost less than building another array, if so, you could find 2 1tb drives and run raid 1 to prevent future uglyness without losing performance. I just go to the root of the drive, press control+a, control+c, then go to the root of my new drive, press control+v and walk away for an hour. Even with failing drives, I've gotten lucky and salvaged everything before the failing drive went tits up.
   
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Thanks for your support guys. I tried cloning my whole RAID and an error appears in Acronis and it cant back it up frown.gif I guess I will have to reinstall everything and just copy/paste my important personal files to my external HDD.
But I do hope it works because I need those files and softwares now because of a university project and I don't have time now to re-install everything.

Last question (desperate here tongue.gif), even if it tells me an error that it can't back up but I still can navigate through the drives, is there another way to clone other then Acronis and that it will work (windows backup does the same error). Sort of tricking the OS or something?

Thanks for your time again!

Don't attempt cloning a failing hard drive as it will only make things worst (especially a RAID 0). You are better off with a save data restore and reinstall your applications. Trust me on this one. I fix machines with failing drives all the time.
 
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post #9 of 9
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Ok, thx for the response people, really appreciate it! So I got new drives today and Im ready to destroy mu raid0 and rebuild a new raid 1. Just got some last questions (I promise thats it after):
Do I do the following?:
-Copy/paste my content of my raid0 to my backup external drive.
-create a system image and save it to my back up external drive
-restart, boot from bios, delete my raid0, create my new raid1 and boot again to windows.
-Everything should be all weird cause I dont have my raid0 anymore
-Restore Windows from the system image

My question is, will windows recognize my raid1 as it was my raid0 after (if I put for example the same drive letter (E:) as it was before)? Because my desktop, games installed and everything was on my raid0, When I create a system image or restore it, should I do something specific?

Sorry for being annoying, its just storage is not my expertise and I dont want to screw up because I got a lot of files.

Thanks for the help!
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