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i dont think my ga-g33m-s2 has any type of raid someone please correct me if wrong as i would much prefer this smile.gif ive tried researching i think the -rs2 mine is just the S2 tho... anyway. what is a fairly cheap RAID 5 capable card i want to run 2x2Tb hdd in my home server for redundancy smile.gif thanks alsonwould i need a seperate hdd for OS prob be WHS2011
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Perc 5 is probably the cheapest, though you will obviously need 3 drives or more for raid 5 and remember Raid is redundancy not backup

And yes ideally you would have a seperate drive just for OS that way it means you could just plug the raid controller+hdd into another pc, boot up and it should then see the raid
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yeah gonna back up all my pc's to the server and store vids and pics on it. so redundancy is important. i have a spare 250gb drive for the OS. or would there be any advantage having the os on a small SSD? eg 60gb? prob no real gain from ssd right. also know of any suppliers for card
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Not sure on the SSD, my fileserver i just have a 500GB hdd for its OS (Win 7) so other than boot times i dont think there would be muchbenefit to an SSD, as my 4x2TB Raid 5 easily maxes out 1gbps

Regarding getting a perc 5, ebay just make sure you get perc 5i its a PCI-E card there is a HUUUUUUGE post in the raid and storage controllers section on the forum
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thankyou so much ++ rep smile.gif
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RAID 5 requires 3 drives, and keep in mind that the PERC 5i (and even the 6i) can not use drives larger than 2TB. I know you mentioned using 2TB drives, but I just wanted to make sure you were aware of this. Also, RAID is not an excuse for backups. RAID will provide redundancy and uptime, but you still need to have a backup plan in place (be it cloud archiving, external drives, tape drives, dvds, etc.).
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oh ok cool thanks, not being rude but how are external drives any safer than my server drives? im backing up my main rig, wifes laptop, htpc etc to this once its built, also serve movies n pics...
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oh ok cool thanks, not being rude but how are external drives any safer than my server drives? im backing up my main rig, wifes laptop, htpc etc to this once its built, also serve movies n pics...
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It's not that the physical drive is any safer, but it's that it is an offline copy. Drive failure is not the only way to loose data, since it could get corrupted, accidently deleted, etc. If that data was also living on an external, you could then plug it up and recover. Internal drives are another way to back stuff up, but using a RAID array and only having one copy of your data on the array is not a backup, even if it's a RAID 1. All of my data lives in two places (storage server and AltDrive), and the important stuff (photos, home videos, music collection, documents, etc) live in three places (storage server, AltDrive, and external NAS).

AltDrive, CrashPlan, and BackBlaze all offer unlimited cloud archiving for about $5/mo, or less. I have over 3TB backed up to AltDrive, and pay $4.45/mo for that. Keep in mind that this is archiving and not cloud storage, since I cannot pull files one by one like you can on DropBox. This is purely for recovery if my entire storage box decides to self-destruct.
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if i have it set with RAID 5 with the 2x2Tb i will have 2 copies as i will only see 2Tb of storage and the 2nd hdd will just mirror that am i right? altho you got me thinking of an external just back up my server via usb once a week or so? what you think?
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if i have it set with RAID 5 with the 2x2Tb i will have 2 copies as i will only see 2Tb of storage and the 2nd hdd will just mirror that am i right? altho you got me thinking of an external just back up my server via usb once a week or so? what you think?

You don't really have two copies per se. Disk redundancy yes, but if your controller took a dump and you needed to get the data off the drives? Many controllers will recognize an existing array, but I would never bank on that being the solution. You can also lose the data while rebuilding a Raid5 array, although that is less likely with only 3 drives in the array than it is with more of them (the more drives the more risk you have for failure during an array rebuild).

You do, however, have two copies if all of the original data also resides on the PC's it came from.

Neither of those two scenarios would protect you from say, a massive lightning strike. Surge strips and even UPS units help, but are no guarantee. Other scenarios are virus infestation and, to me at least, fire. No I don't worry about fire that much, but digital data is one of the few things you can truly protect from fire. Some sort of off site storage is a life saver for that. Back up super important and irreplaceable data on remote servers (cloud computing for all those marketing buzzword people), or even on a USB drive you leave at a friend's house or at work.
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