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  • 67% (189)
    Yes! I love AMD and everything works perfectly for me!
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    Yes! I love AMD and are putting up with all of the issues I am having.
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    No! They need to get working on solutions to problems everyone is having.
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    No! I am fed up and will not be buying an AMD card in the future.
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post #51 of 178
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Originally Posted by Rayleyne View Post

My 7970 crossfire worked fine, Thinking of buying 2 more for quadfire when and if i can patch my desktop up.

Now this is something that is interesting to hear. I have always found that people who don't have issues... typically don't own a large library of games. I have around 400 games, so have the experience in dealing with many different games and their issues. So these people typically only really spend their time playing 1 or 2 games only. So in this case, AMD is doing a fine job for them.

Another thing, is that they normally don't buy new releases, so are not as exposed to the issues that many others face. Follow my trail of thought here?

I have had terrible issues on specific game releases. Skyrim still doesn't stop flickering/microstuttering for me for example even with these new drivers. However, I found that DX11 titles generally have the most problems if they are going to have any. There are so few really DX11 titles, not DX11 running DX10/9 features. Battlefield 3 is and has always been terrible for me. Horrendous microstutter and now Afterburner shows frame time, usually spiking to 50ms.

I have a Steam library hitting around 200 games and Origin sitting at 12. It seems only AAA titles post launch usually work, save for sequels of the same game engine. Older titles generally work okay, but every once in a while, things are broken. EVE online is CFX broken, completely.

Disabling CFX helps but one card even overclocked isn't enough power for 2560x1600 most of the time.

The 58xx generation was a nightmare for me, and the 69xx lacked launch support and post-launch support for the games I play by up to 1+ months after release.

Many AMD users will say they have no issues. Of these, some of them legitimately can claim this, for the others though, I agree they simply do not Crossfire or play a wide variety of titles. I always play something in my library.

I have only SLI Geforce GTX 580s and 590s. I can tell you that QUAD-SLI is not there yet. The driver support is usually way behind SLI, which is behind single GPU focus. The 580s (ref.) were a dream for their time.

The 79xx CrossfireX also bluescreens for me when idle unless you disable ULPS in the registry. Simply put their driver team is making progress, but is definitely behind nVidia's quality in my opinion.

The physical hardware is equitable to nVidias in terms of crunching performance. They still make 2nd rate drivers.

P.S. Your HDMI issue may be related to activating the wrong HDMI out from the Windows sound settings. I approximately have 6 HDMI's out per card it appears and have to manually disable every single one but the one I want to use.
Edited by RagingCain - 2/6/13 at 7:20am
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post #52 of 178
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I tend to go for whoever gives me the most performance for my dollar and in australia sadly, AMD stomps Nvidia for price/performance for referance the 680 on launch was over a thousand, The 690 was 2,000 and is now sitting at 1300 average, The 7970 on launch was 500 bucks.. and is like 400 now while the 680 is 600

Yah Australia seems to have odd pricing at launches it seems, not the first I've seen an instance of it happening for GPUs. I went for 670s just for select titles that I'd be playing more often than not and the SLI scaling was/has been great on my end. But yah like I said, whichever brand has the best bang for buck card for the titles/programs I play/use I'll get them.
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post #53 of 178
First of all to disclaim this post: I am NOT a fanboy of any manufacturer or brand, I just buy / choose whatever I find the best and usually i'll buy multiple cards / cpu's from different brands and test them all and keep the one I find the best in my personal opinion / situation.

I had many ATI/AMD cards the first one dating back to the AGP era. Still have it, Still works fine after 10 years. ATi HIS X800XL 256MB IceQ.

My most recent AMD cards are 3 different 7970's which all ran amazingly well and im my personal experience (owned 2 680's as well) are better then the 670 / 680 will ever be.

I only sold my other 2 7970's cause they didn't clock all that high as i'd want them to. This one I got now goes VERY high only I can't cool the VRM's. But that's due to Arctic's POS Accelero sinks as AMD's reference cooler actually cools them better.

So, apart from the mem controller issues and driver problems there's nothing negative to say about my cards.

AMD releases great drivers with again imo a better UI then nvidia's and even though I have to say that nvidia's drivcers are cleaner and come with less problems from the start AMD fixes a LOT of them with quick beta's and CAP's.

Only thing I really noticed that I didn't like is the fact I had 2 unlcoked 6950's in CF which had enormous microstutter in BF3 for driver after driver after driver release.. I ended up selling them for a ASUS GTX580 DC2 which had ~20% less FPS but was WAY smoother and WAY more playable..
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post #54 of 178
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I have had terrible issues on specific game releases. Skyrim still doesn't stop flickering/microstuttering for me for example even with these new drivers. However, I found that DX11 titles generally have the most problems if they are going to have any. There are so few really DX11 titles, not DX11 running DX10/9 features. Battlefield 3 is and has always been terrible for me. Horrendous microstutter and now Afterburner shows frame time, usually spiking to 50ms.

I have a Steam library hitting around 200 games and Origin sitting at 12. It seems only AAA titles post launch usually work, save for sequels of the same game engine. Older titles generally work okay, but every once in a while, things are broken. EVE online is CFX broken, completely.

Disabling CFX helps but one card even overclocked isn't enough power for 2560x1600 most of the time.

The 58xx generation was a nightmare for me, and the 69xx lacked launch support and post-launch support for the games I play by up to 1+ months after release.

Many AMD users will say they have no issues. Of these, some of them legitimately can claim this, for the others though, I agree they simply do not Crossfire or play a wide variety of titles. I always play something in my library.

I have only SLI Geforce GTX 580s and 590s. I can tell you that QUAD-SLI is not there yet. The driver support is usually way behind SLI, which is behind single GPU focus. The 580s (ref.) were a dream for their time.

The 79xx CrossfireX also bluescreens for me when idle unless you disable ULPS in the registry. Simply put their driver team is making progress, but is definitely behind nVidia's quality in my opinion.

The physical hardware is equitable to nVidias in terms of crunching performance. They still make 2nd rate drivers.

P.S. Your HDMI issue may be related to activating the wrong HDMI out from the Windows sound settings. I approximately have 6 HDMI's out per card it appears and have to manually disable every single one but the one I want to use.

The only real issue i ever had was flash videos and all i had to do is disable Hardware flash acceleration and the problem instantly went away and well, Its flash... I've never experienced micro stutter in single card setups, Only in multi card, Hell most probably didn't even know about it until someone brought up a video slowed down horrendlessly of skyrim to show differance in frametimes (Which btw at that speed they both looked terrible imo) And of which it was a game that had issues of it's own and is made by a company that pretty much has the slogan "It's not a bug it's a feature"
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post #55 of 178
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The 79xx CrossfireX also bluescreens for me when idle unless you disable ULPS in the registry.  Simply put their driver team is making progress, but is definitely behind nVidia's quality in my opinion.

P.S. Your HDMI issue may be related to activating the wrong HDMI out from the Windows sound settings. I approximately have 6 HDMI's out per card it appears and have to manually disable every single one but the one I want to use.

Nope. I've looked into that already. It has to do with a sleep state mode that needs to be disabled on the card for it to work. I guess the card does not detect my receiver as providing enough power to warrant sending sound over it. I don't know... thanks but like I said, I've looked into it. The things work when I disable that sleep mode.

I also BSOD if I have ULPS enabled... so it must be disabled... via a registry tweak, for it to work right. This is something that is pretty universal with crossfire users I believe. So again, another issue that is widely known, but not addressed. This is true for me with my 6870s also.
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post #56 of 178
I used to run two 4890's in cross fire and aside from the occasional multi GPU issue (that happen just as much on Nvidia cards) they ran quite well. At the top of my head I can only remember one none CF issue and that was missing lava textures in Masseffect (fixed in the first patch) and I'm not even sure that was a ATI specific issue.

Sounds to me like the issues that you are having are mostly multi GPU related too and unfortunately AMD or Nvidia that's just the way they tend to be. A little patience and the issues tend to get fixed in driver updates or game patches.
    
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post #57 of 178
Zero issues with my 6970, and a bunch of 6850s, 6870s, and 6950s I've put in builds for friends/family.

With that said, I personally am switching to Nvidia for next gen because I've been getting into 3d modelling and animation and the program I use has CUDA support and absolutely no AMD compute support.
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post #58 of 178
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Nope. I've looked into that already. It has to do with a sleep state mode that needs to be disabled on the card for it to work. I guess the card does not detect my receiver as providing enough power to warrant sending sound over it. I don't know... thanks but like I said, I've looked into it. The things work when I disable that sleep mode.

I also BSOD if I have ULPS enabled... so it must be disabled... via a registry tweak, for it to work right. This is something that is pretty universal with crossfire users I believe. So again, another issue that is widely known, but not addressed. This is true for me with my 6870s also.

Oh right i forgot about the HDMI issue, I did sort of have that one when i tinkered with the drivers for a few seconds but ya other then that and flash (This was on stock drivers up until 13.1) I encountered minimal problems, Don't get me wrong I love both companies, Whoever sways me gets my dosh but right now amd has the lead in australia and i would be a fool to spend 200-400 more on an nvidia card when i could get 2-3 for the price of it tongue.gif
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post #59 of 178
No problems with my reference Sapphire 7970. I did have problems for the brief period I tried crossfire but that was because the other card was producing artifacts at stock redface.gif. Was considering trying for another one but I decided I'll just put that money towards a new rig when the new consoles are out and I need more horsepower.

Also, Accelero Arctic Xtreme aftermarket cooler is damn amazing thumb.gif.
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I'm perfectly happy with mine. Had long been an Nvidia customer and switched ponds with HD4000. Had an HD 4850, 4890, and now 7950. Admittingly, I don't play TONS of games, but those I do play I have yet to experience a problem.

Your right in that someone who plays 400+ games is more likely to experience issues than someone who plays 4, yet this has no bearing on which brand. This is an obvious reality for any video card or configuration.
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