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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

If u check tomshardware, even 2x7970GE are not able to bottleneck a bulldozer, let alone 2500K or even 3930K.

U probably gonna need something like a single Nvidia GTX980 to make 2500K bottleneck it. With Direct Compute/Open CL coming, u probably will see more resources shifting toward GPGPU.

Nope, you cannot say it like that.
First, it depends entirely on the game. Second, it matters what fps you need. There are many games out there where a Bulldozer or Piledriver cannot maintain 60fps, especially in tough scenarios.

Bottlenecks don't matter as much as people think. If your GPU(s) can do 35fps, your CPU 50fps but you need 60fps maintained (not average), the knowledge that your GPUs are the bottleneck are of little use, because that doesn't make your fps any higher. In this example you would not be able to get 60fps, no matter how many GPUs you put in there.

Bottlenecks are important, but they don't represent the whole truth. fps is what ultimately matters.
post #102 of 565
All things TITAN thinking.gif
Interesting that the name is Titan. Are we getting a version of the K20 GK110 card bigeyedsmiley.pngph34r2.gif Please tell me it's true.

Oak ridge National Labs latest supercomputer - Nvidia Tesla K20 powered
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Titan has 18,688 nodes (4 nodes per blade, 24 blades per cabinet),[25] each containing a 16-core AMD Opteron 6274 CPU with 32 GB of DDR3 ECC memory and an Nvidia Tesla K20X GPU with 6 GB GDDR5 ECC memory.
LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

Now diving into the Tesla K20 Card itself...
Tesla PDF GPU Accelerators - Nvidia





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HIGHEST PERFORMANCE FOR HPC APPLICATIONS
Tesla products are designed with exclusive features to maximize performance for supercomputing professionals:

Full double precision floating point performance

1.31 TFlops on the Tesla K20X
Higher double precision than consumer products
Faster PCIe communication

The only NVIDIA product with two DMA engines for bi-directional PCIe communication
Higher performance on technical applications with large data sets

Larger on-board memory (6GB on a Tesla K20X and 8GB on a Tesla K10 GPU)

Edited by Ghoxt - 2/2/13 at 7:36am
post #103 of 565
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There's no way they would be stupid enough to put a price tag similar to the 8800 Ultra's on this again. Especially in today's economy and pc market? They would deter a lot of customers to the red side so fast...

 

They could do that again if the situation calls for it.

 

8800 Ultra was a response to AMD's yet to come HD2900XT. The fastest AMD had was an X1950XTX at the time which the 8800GTX handily beat as well. Aside from that, Ultras were cherry picked G80s that were clocked towards the very edge of G80s possibilities so just like this Titan they could ask major money for it. Then HD2900XT ended up even slower/on par with 8800GTS 640. There was no reason to make them cheaper. The first GPU from the competition to actually beat the 8800GTX/Ultra came 2 generations after that in the form of RV770 -- 3870x2 edged them out as well but those were 2 GPUs in CF.

 

If Titan does perform as shown in the screenie, we'll probably have another 8800 Ultra without ever getting an 8800 GTX though. I don't see 8970 beating Titan if on the same node as Tahiti maintaining AMD's build'em small strategy.


Edited by TheBlademaster01 - 2/2/13 at 7:49am
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I don't see the market for such a card. They couldn't call the GTX 780 their single-GPU flagship anymore and a GTX 790 would beat the Titan in both performance and value.
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All things TITAN thinking.gif
Interesting that the name is Titan. Are we getting a version of the K20 GK110 card bigeyedsmiley.pngph34r2.gif Please tell me it's true.

Oak ridge National Labs latest supercomputer - Nvidia Tesla K20 powered
LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

Now diving into the Tesla K20 Card itself...
Tesla PDF GPU Accelerators - Nvidia






Yes the titan will be GK110 based, this has been discussed literally throughout this thread.
 
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I don't see the market for such a card. They couldn't call the GTX 780 their single-GPU flagship anymore and a GTX 790 would beat the Titan in both performance and value.

Three things are potentially wrong with this statement.

- Your comparing a dual gpu to a single gpu.

- If the Titan can match dual gpu performance of the GTX 690 same generation. What will keep a refreshed GK110 Titan from matching a refeshed dual gpu GTX 790? Both chips are still based on Kepler.

- Big die could be here to stay and pegged as the enthusiast gpu, which could make dual gpu cards obsolete. No need for a GTX 790, just refresh the Titian.

$899 single vs $999 dual. The smart buyer will buy the single gpu every time.
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I'll wait for games to catch up to hardware before I even think about investing in something like this. Colossal waste of money at the current time.
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I'll wait for games to catch up to hardware before I even think about investing in something like this. Colossal waste of money at the current time.

Nope. You just have no idea what to do with it wink.gif
SGSSAA, Downsampling, 3DVision, NV Surround, 120Hz gaming@120fps etc.
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Nope. You just have no idea what to do with it wink.gif
SGSSAA, Downsampling, 3DVision, NV Surround, 120Hz gaming@120fps etc.

This.

The limit is only what you place on yourself. This applies to life also.
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Nope. You just have no idea what to do with it wink.gif
SGSSAA, Downsampling, 3DVision, NV Surround, 120Hz gaming@120fps etc.

...GPGPU is also a massive one here.
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