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post #331 of 565
2/12/13 at 9:19am
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$499 for GTX 780 and $420 for GTX 680

I would say that is a best case scenario for the 780.
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2/12/13 at 9:23am
if the economy is effed up, why would manufaturers overprice their cards? No one will buy em.
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2/12/13 at 9:39am
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if the economy is effed up, why would manufaturers overprice their cards? No one will buy em.

If that were the case, why would the prices on just about everything be going up? It's simple. It doesn't matter if people can afford it or not if the company can't make their profit numbers. If it costs Mcdonald's $10 to make a burger they aren't going to charge you $3. They are going to charge you $13. If the market can't handle it they will close up shop or try to sell something else they can make money on. Normally these prices increase in small increments, which is inflation. However, in bad economic times they tend to increase at a greater rate than inflation. This is the main reason why the earning power of the dollar is down a ton. A dollar does not buy you as much as it did a couple of years ago. If healthcare costs at the plant go up, then the price of what they manufactur goes up. If the gas for the tractor trailor goes up, the price of the delivery goes up. The ulitmate price is paid by the consumer as it is the last stop for the product. Typically they will not raise a price so drastically to scare the consumer base. They could easily price it at $525, and still be confident people will buy it. Maybe they plan on overpricing the Titan, (hardcore enthusiast tend to spend the money even in harder economic times), and using the money to offset any raise in prices.
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2/12/13 at 9:51am
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If that were the case, why would the prices on just about everything be going up? It's simple. It doesn't matter if people can afford it or not if the company can't make their profit numbers. If it costs Mcdonald's $10 to make a burger they aren't going to charge you $3. They are going to charge you $13. If the market can't handle it they will close up shop or try to sell something else they can make money on. Normally these prices increase in small increments, which is inflation. However, in bad economic times they tend to increase at a greater rate than inflation. This is the main reason why the earning power of the dollar is down a ton. A dollar does not buy you as much as it did a couple of years ago. If healthcare costs at the plant go up, then the price of what they manufactur goes up. If the gas for the tractor trailor goes up, the price of the delivery goes up. The ulitmate price is paid by the consumer as it is the last stop for the product. Typically they will not raise a price so drastically to scare the consumer base. They could easily price it at $525, and still be confident people will buy it. Maybe they plan on overpricing the Titan, (hardcore enthusiast tend to spend the money even in harder economic times), and using the money to offset any raise in prices.

Nvidia could charge what ever they wan't. Having only Amd as competition makes this a much easier task. Both companies have no real threat from any other gpu maker. This is exactly why Amd charged 550.00 for the 7970 at launch. Nvidia could charge 1200 for the Titan and people will still pay it because it has no real competition. If it scales similar to the rest of kepler you can expect 2 Titans in SLi to demolish anything out there including quad-fire 7970's due to horrible scaling. Add in only having 2 gpu's in your system making less heat, noise and far less power draw then quad gpu's. Its a high-end gamers wet dream. I doubt Titan will be a cent less then 1000 dollars because of the Vram and what they are capable of doing in Sli.
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2/12/13 at 9:52am
in EU its like 10+ years since dollar was equal to euro, yet since then, these times prices havenot changed and even tough eur/usd was like 1.60 once, it anything pc related we get the initial pricing 1usd = 1eur, yet whe euro goes down suddenly the prices increase even more

gtx 690 costs 950-1000eur
gtx 670 costs 400-500eur for 4gb version
gtx 680 costs 500-600eur for 4gb version
hd 7970 costs 370+eur
hd 7970 ghz costs 430+ eur
i5-2500k and i5-3570k cost circa 200eur
i7-2600k and i7-3770k cost circa 300eur
and so on

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2/12/13 at 10:03am
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in EU its like 10+ years since dollar was equal to euro, yet since then, these times prices havenot changed and even tough eur/usd was like 1.60 once, it anything pc related we get the initial pricing 1usd = 1eur, yet whe euro goes down suddenly the prices increase even more

gtx 690 costs 950-1000eur
gtx 670 costs 400-500eur for 4gb version
gtx 680 costs 500-600eur for 4gb version
hd 7970 costs 370+eur
hd 7970 ghz costs 430+ eur
i5-2500k and i5-3570k cost circa 200eur
i7-2600k and i7-3770k cost circa 300eur
and so on

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Like i said it could be different overseas. In the US prices are skyrocketing. Since Americans are fat (LOL) I like to use the Mcdonald's example, and I will not use real life numbers. About 5 years ago one could go to Mcdonald's and get just about every meal for under 5$, and most could be gotten under that with tax. Now you are LUCKY to get out of McDonald's for $7 including tax. that is at least a 40% increase in 5 years or 8% per year, which is double of inflation. You are correct that this does not have as big of an impact on electronics. Typically the major cost is developing the technology, and then things get much cheaper from there, which is why prices come down on the same Technology. Maybe we will see the 780 stay at $500 since there is no new costs associated with it. However, prices are going up on things we haven't seen before because of our healthcare reform. My guess is we will see the price between $500 and $525, and the major increase will happen with the next architecture change. Boom $600 880's here we come.
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2/12/13 at 10:20am
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I would say that is a best case scenario for the 780.

Its what happend when GTX 580 was released. The price was $499. GTX 480 price was lowered to $420. Price for 680 now varies from $479 to $540 ish so who knows.
Edited by Cloudfire777 - 2/12/13 at 10:24am
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2/12/13 at 10:21am
It does suck that prices keep going up. But they charge what they can get, and price accordingly to make the most profit. Higher prices = less people purchasing, and vice versa. But if they can make more money by going with higher prices + less sales rather than lower prices + more sales, then they'll do it. The ones that do still buy them suffer though. I'd love for prices to start dropping, or at the very least leveling-off. I hope we don't see a reference x80 for more than $500 anytime soon sadsmiley.gif
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It'll be really interesting to see how well the Titans OC especially if no voltage control is available (outside hard mods). I suspect there may not be much headroom if Nvidia locks them down so tight in which case a highly overclocked 7970/680 may be a lot closer to a Titan than some realize. Just have to wait and see.
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2/12/13 at 10:46am
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Why bring up the 8800Ultra? See my post above. By your logic the 680 should have cost $900+ as well. You want to go back to the era of 8800 ultra, when the chips now days don't even cost a fraction in manufacturing of what they did back then. The same era when entry level PC's cost over $2500? So because one card cost way too much and gave too little that's somehow logical by today's standards?
Because people will buy it anyway, lol. Just like they did back then.
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