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*googles*

First thing I found was that its the brand "Yamakasi"
Highly sceptical rolleyes.gif

Gonna continue to read about it though. Personally I`d prefer known brands. Thanks for the tip

Yes, its a Korean Yamakasi. The stand sucks, but it uses the same IPS panel as the 27" iMac. Its gorgeous. And with the extreme pcb in it I run Black OPs II at 120fps right now. thumb.gif
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Sadly IPS isn't good enough for 120Hz though...hence why no other manufacturer is doing it. Unless you like motion blur hell of course....

Uhhh, disagree. My monitor only has a 6ms input lag so its very responsive, and I actually turn off motion blur in most games because the high refresh rate/fps keeps the images crystal clear....
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Sadly IPS isn't good enough for 120Hz though...hence why no other manufacturer is doing it. Unless you like motion blur hell of course....

Oh is that why? Ben-Q, Samsung, Asus, nobody makes 120HZ IPS screens. Well they do, but its for 40inch and above.
But its a pity since IPS screens are so vibrant and so crisp and clear. thumb.gif
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Yes, its a Korean Yamakasi. The stand sucks, but it uses the same IPS panel as the 27" iMac. Its gorgeous. And with the extreme pcb in it I run Black OPs II at 120fps right now. thumb.gif

120Hz screen is a must for any gamer with a powerful GPU like Titan. You are just wasting away all those FPS over 60 with a regular 60Hz screen since it can`t display it. I thought I could combine IPS and 120Hz at the same time smile.gif
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Uhhh, disagree. My monitor only has a 6ms input lag so its very responsive, and I actually turn off motion blur in most games because the high refresh rate/fps keeps the images crystal clear....

Yeah thats the whole point with 120Hz screen isnt it? Reduce/remove motion blur and not do it through vsync
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Oh is that why? Ben-Q, Samsung, Asus, nobody makes 120HZ IPS screens. Well they do, but its for 40inch and above.
But its a pity since IPS screens are so vibrant and so crisp and clear. thumb.gif

120Hz screen is a must for any gamer with a powerful GPU like Titan. You are just wasting away all those FPS over 60 with a regular 60Hz screen since it can`t display it. I thought I could combine IPS and 120Hz at the same time smile.gif

Yeah thats the whole point with 120Hz screen isnt it? Reduce/remove motion blur and not do it through vsync

I'm not doubting they are crisp and clear and a pleasure to use. But FPS type games don't look as great as they should due to the limitation of IPS technology. Hence why TN is always used in 120Hz displays.....it can keep up.

120Hz removes screen tearing, a 60Hz screen cannot display the frames fast enough if your pushing 60FPS+

Even though a Catleap Extreme is a 120Hz IPS, it's actually the IPS tech that is the problem. Since it is then IPS that cannot keep up. Which results in a blur in fast games...
Edited by Mhill2029 - 2/13/13 at 8:56am
 
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Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post

I'm not doubting they are crisp and clear and a pleasure to use. But FPS type games don't look as great as they should due to the limitation of IPS technology. Hence why TN is always used in 120Hz displays.....it can keep up.

120Hz removes screen tearing, a 60Hz screen cannot display the frames fast enough if your pushing 60FPS+

Even though a Catleap Extreme is a 120Hz IPS, it's actually the IPS tech that is the problem. Since it is then IPS that cannot keep up. Which results in a blur in fast games...

I may be mistaken, but i think we are getting off topic.
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I'm not doubting they are crisp and clear and a pleasure to use. But FPS type games don't look as great as they should due to the limitation of IPS technology. Hence why TN is always used in 120Hz displays.....it can keep up.

No it removes screen tearing, a 60Hz screen cannot render the frames fast enough if your pusing 60FPS+

I have a 120Hz IPS panel and with the 6ms input lag it "keeps-up" just fine, and looks amazing while doing so. Maybe the gray-to-gray or whatver the indice is for response rates is technically better with the 120Hz TN/LCD panels, or maybe its been cost prohibitive for most manufacturers to produce 27" 1440p 120Hz IPS monitors. All I want to know, and I guess I'm goiing to have to wait to see, if one or two Titans will be needed to push those framerates on a 1440p screen.rolleyes.gif
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I have a 120Hz IPS panel and with the 6ms input lag it "keeps-up" just fine, and looks amazing while doing so. Maybe the gray-to-gray or whatver the indice is for response rates is technically better with the 120Hz TN/LCD panels, or maybe its been cost prohibitive for most manufacturers to produce 27" 1440p 120Hz IPS monitors. All I want to know, and I guess I'm goiing to have to wait to see, if one or two Titans will be needed to push those framerates on a 1440p screen.rolleyes.gif

I wasn't talking about input lag. That's not a problem with any modern display in the last few years....

At a guess, 1 should be enough i would think.
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I have a 120Hz IPS panel and with the 6ms input lag it "keeps-up" just fine, and looks amazing while doing so. Maybe the gray-to-gray or whatver the indice is for response rates is technically better with the 120Hz TN/LCD panels, or maybe its been cost prohibitive for most manufacturers to produce 27" 1440p 120Hz IPS monitors. All I want to know, and I guess I'm goiing to have to wait to see, if one or two Titans will be needed to push those framerates on a 1440p screen.rolleyes.gif

That decision I am trying to come to. I think 1 Titan will give you 80-90 FPS, obviously depending on the game, but two would give you 120+ easily.
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Hmmmm. I have a single 2560x1440p 120Hz monitor. I wonder if one Titan would be able to push ultra settings (only 2-4xMSAA because of the enhanced resolution) at 120fps in any existing or soon to drop games. Or do people think I'd need 2 titans to accomplish that...
Depends on the game. BF3 maybe. FarCry3, Crysis 3, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs, (All no). I can barely hold 60-70fps with my 690 with only 2xmsaa. Even though I'm not going to get into these 27" monitors running true 120hz. There is a reason you don't see them from Samsung,Asus,HP,Dell. Sorry its not possible. The big screen tv's use multipliers to achieve 120/240 etc. They are capped at 60hz just basically split the screen into two 60hz signals to get 120 and so on. Only computer monitors offer 120hz across one entire screen. TN panels are the only one's who can do it accurately. But again with 2560 you run into bandwidth issues way before you get to what the panel can reproduce. Back on topic, you will need two Titans to pull off an average of 100-120fps on upcoming titles in 2560. But my question would be why would you drop 1800 on gpu's but run them on a cheap Korean screen?
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What monitor gets that resolution at 120hz? Just curious, but as long as you can go above 60fps without screen tearing or the input lagging of vsync you'll be fine. You're probably better off using Nvidia inspector to cap your frame rate at 72 (without vsync) to keep the temps on your card down.

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I'm not doubting they are crisp and clear and a pleasure to use. But FPS type games don't look as great as they should due to the limitation of IPS technology. Hence why TN is always used in 120Hz displays.....it can keep up.

120Hz removes screen tearing, a 60Hz screen cannot display the frames fast enough if your pushing 60FPS+

Even though a Catleap Extreme is a 120Hz IPS, it's actually the IPS tech that is the problem. Since it is then IPS that cannot keep up. Which results in a blur in fast games...
 
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pfffft, where do you think the displays in Samsung come from? Or most of the other manufacturers? tongue.gif
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