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pfffft, where do you think the displays in Samsung come from? Or most of the other manufacturers? tongue.gif

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Depends on the game. BF3 maybe. FarCry3, Crysis 3, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs, (All no). I can barely hold 60-70fps with my 690 with only 2xmsaa. Even though I'm not going to get into these 27" monitors running true 120hz. There is a reason you don't see them from Samsung,Asus,HP,Dell. Sorry its not possible. The big screen tv's use multipliers to achieve 120/240 etc. They are capped at 60hz just basically split the screen into two 60hz signals to get 120 and so on. Only computer monitors offer 120hz across one entire screen. TN panels are the only one's who can do it accurately. But again with 2560 you run into bandwidth issues way before you get to what the panel can reproduce. Back on topic, you will need two Titans to pull off an average of 100-120fps on upcoming titles in 2560. But my question would be why would you drop 1800 on gpu's but run them on a cheap Korean screen?

I think Cheap Korean Screens may be a bit of an underestimate. They are actually LG panels used in the Apple Cinema Displays. Basically they make a bunch of Panels and Apple gets the A+ panels with zero defects in the batch. Apple then puts their plastic around the monitor and charges you a ton of money. A company like catleap then gets the A grade monitors, while other companies may take the A- monitors. The rating usualy deals with stuck or dead pixels in a batch. Basically they will send the batch out and some of the monitors will be perfect, and others may have a dead pixel. Then a site will take the perfect ones, and sell them for more money than the one with a dead pixel or two. In most cases people cannot see a couple of dead pixel due to the rediculous pixel count. So the question should be not be, "Why would you get two Titans for a cheap Korean monitor", rather "why are you paying $1,200, for a $600 monitor and a ton more money for the apple logo on it".

I forgot to add the Apple Monitor only comes in 60Hz as well.
Edited by guinner16 - 2/13/13 at 9:17am
post #453 of 565
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Depends on the game. BF3 maybe. FarCry3, Crysis 3, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs, (All no). I can barely hold 60-70fps with my 690 with only 2xmsaa. Even though I'm not going to get into these 27" monitors running true 120hz. There is a reason you don't see them from Samsung,Asus,HP,Dell. Sorry its not possible. The big screen tv's use multipliers to achieve 120/240 etc. They are capped at 60hz just basically split the screen into two 60hz signals to get 120 and so on. Only computer monitors offer 120hz across one entire screen. TN panels are the only one's who can do it accurately. But again with 2560 you run into bandwidth issues way before you get to what the panel can reproduce. Back on topic, you will need two Titans to pull off an average of 100-120fps on upcoming titles in 2560. But my question would be why would you drop 1800 on gpu's but run them on a cheap Korean screen?

I dont know. Eny 1440p @ 120Hz? wink.gif
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LG

Which have a factory in Korea.
Samsung make their in Korea too.

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Which have a factory in Korea.
Samsung make their in Korea too.

tongue.gif

I think the best way to explain it is using a pair of Air Jordans as an example. A manufacturer does a perfect run of Jordan's which obviously get sent to Nike. They then do a run where they have a bunch of shoes where a stitch is just slightly crooked. It would obviously take a ton of time to go through each shoe in that run to find out which ones are good, and which one are bad. Instead, they make the shoe without the Nike Logo and sell it to a second hand shop, who then sells you the shoe half price. Some of those shoes may not have a crooked stitch, but they were passed off to a discounter anyway.
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But my question would be why would you drop 1800 on gpu's but run them on a cheap Korean screen?

doh.gif . Why not? Most "cheap" Korean Monitors are awsome. By the way I spent 1600$ on monitors + shipping + adapters.

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Which have a factory in Korea.
Samsung make their in Korea too.

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What relevance is this on what i was talking about anyway? It's common knowledge that Samsung or LG panels are used in a variety of different companies displays. All the companies do is brand it and make a different outer shell.

It still doesn't avoid the fact that IPS isn't ideal for 120Hz. TN is.....
 
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Which have a factory in Korea.
Samsung make their in Korea too.

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You guys took that the wrong way. I'm not saying they are cheap because they are made in Korea. That are mostly talked about using the title "Korean Monitor." I should have just said cheap monitor. Because that is is exactly what they are my friends. You get what you pay for. You honestly think that a 300 dollar monitor is going to be the same thing as a 700-1000 monitor and also magically offer you 120hz as well. Come on guys. Anyways lets not derail this thread. Back on topic.
 
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Depends on the game. BF3 maybe. FarCry3, Crysis 3, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs, (All no). I can barely hold 60-70fps with my 690 with only 2xmsaa. Even though I'm not going to get into these 27" monitors running true 120hz. There is a reason you don't see them from Samsung,Asus,HP,Dell. Sorry its not possible. The big screen tv's use multipliers to achieve 120/240 etc. They are capped at 60hz just basically split the screen into two 60hz signals to get 120 and so on. Only computer monitors offer 120hz across one entire screen. TN panels are the only one's who can do it accurately. But again with 2560 you run into bandwidth issues way before you get to what the panel can reproduce. Back on topic, you will need two Titans to pull off an average of 100-120fps on upcoming titles in 2560. But my question would be why would you drop 1800 on gpu's but run them on a cheap Korean screen?

Don't be jelly!! They aren't cheap screens, they are amazing pixel perfect IPS screens, sourced directly from the manufacturer. Like I said, they are the same panels as the Apple Cinematic displays but with an overclockable pcb and only one dvi-d input to minimize input lag. But thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to to spend the same money (or more) than I did for a "name brand" 120Hz 1200/1080p! tongue.gif

I guess I will grab two Titans at launch and sell the second one afterwards if one will get me the fps I want in the new games.
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What relevance is this on what i was talking about anyway? It's common knowledge that Samsung or LG panels are used in a variety of different companies displays. All the companies do is brand it and make a different outer shell.

It still doesn't avoid the fact that IPS isn't ideal for 120Hz. TN is.....

Oh I see your point. Well then tell me why one would spend $1800 on SLI titans to get a crappy picture like that of a TN. Sorry, if I am spending that kind of money I want it to look like a real life image. Yes, there are TN panels out there with a decent picture, but they can't compete with an IPS.
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