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I think this project will be a good learning experiences for myself and all the followers of this post.

I have an overwhelming IT assignment and am looking for some input and advice from all you experienced and well seasoned IT pro's! I am permitted to use any outside resources of my choosing, so #1 on my list is you!

I live in Ontario so that needs to be relevant.
Attached are the requirements. I know many questions need to asked but here it is:

A large accounting firm, requires a network for their new un-networked building. The offices are located in one building; 6 stories of approx 10 ft high each – W x D of approx 200 x130 ft. (see diagrams below). The manager of the company requires the following services for the new network. Prices (actual – with sources) and diagrams (where applicable) must be included in your recommendation. Keep in mind that you will have to actually implement your
recommendations (within certain academic limitations); so keep things as simple as you can, while still meeting the objectives, and make sure you can either obtain the software you recommend or that you can access an alternative.

!!

I will need to use many Vm's, possibly CloudStack, XenServer or Esxi,..
Authentication, email, collaboration software, printer server, ...
Security/Security Closet(locations)
Backup
VOIP(internal phone system)
wire/drops/hardware/software....


This is going to be interesting! Requirements.docx 19k .docx file





Edited by brewermoe - 1/31/13 at 5:42pm
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Better take a cot!


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We only have 2 months to do it!
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for the software side I highly recommend you consider a unix/linux option. They tend to do much better then windows at server tasks, both in performance and reliability, and cost. I can't help with a lot but what I can say is that for OS you should be considering three options:

1. GNU/Linux
2. FreeBSD
3. Solaris

Any of these can preform the server activities you need. For the VMs, aside from the evident full vms you have some other options on *nix

-FreeBSD- FreeBSD Jails. A gem of the OS, these are pretty easy to set up (easier still with the wardin) and take the chroot one step farther. The only part of the system shared between OSes is the kernel, and thus each VM would have to use the FreeBSD kernel, so basically Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, FreeBSD, and PC-BSD.

-All- chroot. this is a way of using a different directory as root, will take more set up then jails but works very similar.

-Xen- You stated this above, so I asumme you know what it is.

Other things to consider:

-cost. FreeBSD is free. Linux is free, but if you want to pay for support you can. Solaris costs. their is an open rebuild, no one really knows if that's going to work out so I wouldn't pin anything on it just yet.
-Filesystem. I'm going to say these servers are pretty important. in which case, freebsd and solaris are both capable of using the ZFS, which is basically the best storage FS to be inverted to date. However, XFS for data on linux should work fine.

Distro: Using Linux you have more options. Here are a few main ones for servers:

-Red Hat Enterprise Linux (or CentOS)
-Suse Linux Enterprise Server
-Debian GNU/Linux
-Ubuntu Server

RHEL and SLES will cost. However, if you don't want to support feel free to use opesuse or centos, free rebuilds. debian is just free.

Using freebsd you really have two:

-FreeBSD
-Debian GNU/Linux

personlly, I would just use freebsd as it's more mature then a GNU/kFreeBSD hybrid.

that covers the server side of the OSes. For the client side, I would use either Debian GNU/Linux, Ubuntu LTS, Fedora ot SLED. Ubuntu LTS or SLED if you want (paid) support

this seems pretty big, so I would say you want for at least the servers. In that case, I have some suggestions (feel free to mix and match):


Option 1. ('Red Hat')

Server OS: RHEL (support provided by Red Hat) Lifetime: 10 years at least, I believe they said they'd do 20
Workstation OS: same
Desktop OS: Fedora (support optional from a number of company's, However, I would say none as it moves very quickly.) Lifetime: 13 Months. However, you can do in place upgrades.

Option 2. ('Suse')

Server OS: SLES support: Suse. I think life time is similar to redhat
Workstation OS: SLED (Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop)
Desktop OS: same as workstation

Option 3. ('Ubuntu')

Server OS: Ubuntu Sever 12.04 LTS
Workstation OS: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Desktop OS: Ubuntu 12.10

Option: 4. ('Oracle')

Server OS: Solaris
Workstation OS: Oracle Linux
Desktop OS: Fedora


also for cross platform file sharing use samba. If your interested on more detail, as well as quotes on price and support, PM me an email adress and I'll take a closer look over your doc. Unless you are pretty sure you could support FreeBSD inside the company, then I would use a supported OS above. I would not use Windows as the desktop OS, not only does it raise costs, it causes more problems then Linux does. I would be leaning towards using the red hat solution myself, maybe changing the desktop OS for Ubuntu LTS or Debian (due to Fedora quick release cycle) If your not convinced on using *nix for the desktops, Say so and if you give me some time I think I could persuade you. smile.gif
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As for wire, note that ethernet (C5E) can only be ran up to a max of 100M end to end. So some sort of fiber may be a good idea for this project.
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As for wire, note that ethernet (C5E) can only be ran up to a max of 100M end to end. So some sort of fiber may be a good idea for this project.
Would the cost difference be worth it? (incl the extra hardware)

What about just using managed switches on each floor? Also, isn't separate drops required, at least from the switch, one to the phone, one to the workstation?
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Would the cost difference be worth it? (incl the extra hardware)

What about just using managed switches on each floor? Also, isn't separate drops required, at least from the switch, one to the phone, one to the workstation?

Fiber can be pretty expensive. How big is each floor? I'd think a switch on each, like you said, would be the most cost effective.

Depends on the IP phones you use. I know some models have a "switching" ability built in, meaning you can go from the wall to the phone, and then from the phone to the computer (my current desk phone has this).

As for the wireless, I recommend Unifi. It's cheap, easy to use, and has been very reliable for us.
http://www.ubnt.com/unifi

As for e-mail, are they pretty dead-set on hosting their own? If their workstations are going to be running Windows and Office, it's really hard to ignore Exchange.
EDIT: Whoops, didn't see that they don't want to use Office. Libre Office, it is! biggrin.gif (And Exchange can be avoided!)

VOIP phone is easy: Asterisk. Free and widely used.

Man a lot of these things they ask for are simply part of a Windows domain environment.

Spiceworks is a great free asset and network management system.

This VM backup software is nice. A big plus is that it interfaces with Amazon's S3, which is great for cost-effective DR plans:
http://www.phdvirtual.com/
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5) All desktops to have encrypted Harddrives, Anti-Virus (kept up-to-date with nightly crons/checks), separate floors by VLANs (and/or segments) (possibly make that even more granular (cubicles, and offices, etc)

6) not sure if Atria would work out there, but they're great for small/medium size company internet stuff, perhaps a balanced 25/25?
http://www.atrianetworks.com/

7) lease Xeroxes....

8) let google handle it for $50/user/yr. http://www.google.ca/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html
OR make a powerful linux mail server (courier), and allow your users to utilize evolution/thunderbird/claws mail and pull over IMAPS and send over POP3S

9) google calandar, and google docs are included in the fees above... OR you'll need to create something yourself...

10)a linux ldap server

11) dual power supplies, redundant raid arrays, and dual firewalls for failover... possibly dual ISPs for failover internet access and/or load balancing.

12) LOL, um KERBEROS probably...

13)postgres?

15) Libre Office/Open Office although google doc's is pretty robust too and included in that $50/user/yr fee above

16)

17) Switch/Asterisk Linux Server, not sure who to go with to get a SIP account though, base model cisco/linksys phones for the cubicles, polycom soundstations for conference/meeting rooms, and executive offices should have slightly upgraded phones, possibly multiple line capabilities. reception should have a large number of lines 2 minimum 8-10 tops

18) truecrypt usb drives, and hard drives. linux cryptfs swap partitions....

19) well password policy would be handled by LDAP (complexity, change every X days, cannot be previously used password from 18 months ago, etc) Desktop look and feel, unsure...

20) DD+SCP?

21) assett management, GLPI? ticketing, OTRS?

22) Proxmox? It's a fun way to do it, it's an expandable clusterable solution using linux land...

23) Nagios

24)

25) High tension line across the rooftops, weather proof obviously, fiber preferably so it needn't be touched for a long time.
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This is great! SOooo much to research and think about!
I have been thinking of running CloudStack.... could run a VM for Voip as on its own...
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