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Sadly, they are right. I wouldn't say users are stupid, but rather don't care enough to take the time to learn how to take care of their system. Not everyone should have to either IMHO. Computers should be convenient and simple for most people rather then something someone needs to learn the ins-and-outs of to use and maintain. Id rather Apple be doing stuff like this then get called on by relatives to fix stuff when they break it. Do you think my aunt will ever know to disable Java to protect from vulnerabilities? Heck no she won't, and even if she did, I'd be the one who would actually have to disable it.

On the flipside, reenabling Java was simple for me. I think Apple is 100% on the right track here.

Want to make it easier? Send out notifications that there are security risks involved with using Java and make disabling it a simple click of a button from the notification window. Don't want to disable Java? Click "No Thanks".

I take issue with a corporation doing anything at all to my computer without my permission.
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Want to make it easier? Send out notifications that there are security risks involved with using Java and make disabling it a simple click of a button from the notification window. Don't want to disable Java? Click "No Thanks".

I take issue with a corporation doing anything at all to my computer without my permission.

That approach doesn’t work too well with autoupdate popups for programs or antivirus though. I can't count the times I'v sat down to help someone on their computer only to find they have "just been clicking the X" when any sort of reminder, warning, or update window appears. It also doesn't help that these people can't discern between a pop up ad mimicking something legit but trying to install malware, or a legit notification.

Anyway, Apple isn't disabling the Java Runtime on OS X itself. It's just in-browser web apps which are the highest source of risk.
Edited by Dronac - 1/31/13 at 8:39pm
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An average user does not use Java on a day-to-day basis. They do, however, use Javascript.
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That approach doesn’t work too well with autoupdate popups for programs or antivirus though. I can't count the times I'v sat down to help someone on their computer only to find they have "just been clicking the X" when any sort of reminder, warning, or update window appears. It also doesn't help that these people can't discern between a pop up ad mimicking something legit but trying to install malware, or a legit notification.

Anyway, Apple isn't disabling the Java Runtime on OS X itself. It's just in-browser web apps which are the highest source of risk.

Doesn't Apple have some fancy new notification center thing in mountain lion?

Regardless, if you're too stupid to actually read notifications then you're beyond help and you deserve whatever horror is brought upon you. Maybe then you'll learn not to be such a fool. If the notification light indicating the need for an oil change in someone's car was on for a period of time and then the car broke down, would you be thinking about how car manufacturers could prevent this situation or would you be thinking about how stupid the driver is?
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An average user does not use Java on a day-to-day basis. They do, however, use Javascript.

JavaScript has nothing to do with Java.
Edited by Usario - 1/31/13 at 9:12pm
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so typical of the fruit company, instead of fixing the problem lets just deny the fact the problem exist by blocking it entirely.

"Users are a danger to the mac platform lets deny them of any access"

the mac fans just have to get all defensive because they know they are wrong but they have to justify their position and money blown away just so they can act hip
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Well ... NO WONDER!

 

This just pissed me off, I have Java course in Uni and work needs to due and all the sudden nothing works. Guess, I have to let my Uni knows this course is doomed!

 
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Well ... NO WONDER!

This just pissed me off, I have Java course in Uni and work needs to due and all the sudden nothing works. Guess, I have to let my Uni knows this course is doomed!

dont use a mac silly, if apple wants to sign their own death we more then welcome it
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dont use a mac silly, if apple wants to sign their own death we more then welcome it

 

 

 
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I'm a Goat so the Sheep thing doesn't apply to me haha, anyways I wonder what Apple will do to correct this now since I'm sure there are plenty of users out there with Macs that needs to use Java on a day to day basis. Lets wait for their solution, just like I've been waiting for Flash on my iDevices(Never going to Happen)
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How will Apple compile all Flash data now? Oh, wait... Nope. Still nothing.
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