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post #21 of 34
Well part of the suggestion depends on how many VMs you want to run. If more than 2 virtual machines (3 total), then stick with your current processor:

i7-3930k ($570)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492&Tpk=i7%203930k
Asrock x79 Extreme 6 ($190) - a key thing to remember for mobos is to only pay for the features you're going to use. Mobos based on the same chipset aren't going to magically run your processor better because they cost more (exception: you plan LN2 cooling) In this case, we have the ability to plug in 2 video cards & 9 hard drives (9 SATA ports + one connection diverted to eSATA) If you felt you needed more SATA ports or the ability to plug in 3 or more video cards, well that's when you start paying more. For instance the Fatality board has 10 internal sata ports + 2 more esata. Savings: $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157289

otherwise get an i7-3770k ($330)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
and an Asrock Z77 Extreme 6 ($140 - 8 SATA ports)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157295
or if you decide a few more SATA ports are worth $65, the Asrock Z77 professional (10 ports + 1 esata)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157299

Ok, now the rest of your parts

CPU cooler: HR-02 Macho ($40) Performance good for a strong overclock, quiet.
http://www.amazon.com/Macho-BW-Support-Socket-Driver/dp/B008YTUN38/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359766271&sr=8-2&keywords=hr-02+macho

8GB 1600mhz RAM ($44) RAM speed has little to no effect on performance.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148662&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6146846&SID=14a8eyaxog73r

GPU: Sapphire Radeon 7950 ($300) Some serious oomph. Mobo & PSU have room for a second if you decide to crossfire after upgrading monitor config.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

Case (all the boards recommended are ATX, and with no watercooling...) : Fractal Design R4 White ($85) You can get noise-dampening with the ATX-sized cases. Also available in black windowed, titanium grey windowed, white windowed.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75050&vpn=FD%2DCA%2DDEF%2DR4%2DWH&manufacture=Fractal%20Design&promoid=1292

SSD: Samsung 840 500gb ($350) - I find it hard to believe you'd need that much space. But if you do, and SATA ports are at a premium, why wouldn't you get a big one rather than two small ones? RAID only helps sequential read/write, which isn't a big deal unless you're constantly transferring the whole hard drive's data. Plus larger SSDs are generally faster than their smaller counterparts anyway. Note you should also consider replacing this with the same brand, 250gb.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147190

HDD: WD Caviar Green 3TB ($130 each after promo code) - if you're going to be sticking that many HDDs into your case, you might start being concerned about HDD noise - particularly if this is going to be close to your media area (TV) to serve as an HTPC. Greens are a little quieter (because slower RPM - slightly less vibration). Otherwise the barracudas you had were fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136874

PSU: Seasonic X750 ($140) top-end, even silent (fan stops running) if cool enough. Bit cheaper than what you had. Wattage more than enough to cover 2 overclocked GPUs + an overclocked CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

DVD-burner (17) not white - oddly hard to find at the moment
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW%2D24B1ST%20Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1292

Totals w/i7-3930k: $1996
w/i7-3770k (recommended): $1706
(both assume 500gb SSD & two WD Greens)

I think you'll find that's considerably cheaper that what you're considering, largely based on not water-cooling & to a lesser extent mobo cost.
    
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Those are actually some really good recommendations. the only thing I have a question about is the cooler. Is there a cooler of equal or better performance on newegg I would prefer that. I'd rather buy everything from one place than a few different places if at all possible. I do like everything else though, I did however opt for the black windowed R4 as it fits my room better. That was the only change i made. And the extremely low profile RAM helps with any heatsink I want.

I would also like to ask, how well should the 7950 hold up with games like Skyrim which don't play too nicely with the 7000 series? Final question, will one be enough for Crysis 3 and BioShock Infinite?
post #23 of 34
The 7950 should max Skyrim with no problem. When we say games "don't play nicely" or whatever with a particular game, it's good to remember that this is only marginal - a matter of degree. The 7950 should do better than most of Nvidia's lineup. It's just that cost-effectiveness might be with the other brand. One will likely be enough for Crysis 3 (doesn't look likely to be any more difficult to run than Crysis 2 last I checked. Cyrsis 2, unlike Crysis 1, was not terribly hard to run, graphically speaking). Bioshock infinite - I have no idea.

If you're worried about GPU performance (I wouldn't be) - you basically have two routes to go. Generally I say stick with the 7xxx series, as they can be effectively overclocked should you choose to do so - Nvidia's offerings basically can't at the higher level. So you can either go with the single 7950, and then, if you have problems (which I see as unlikely), get a second for Crossfire. Alternatively, you can get a single 7970 ($100 more). But if you then want to Crossfire, it'll cost you more than two 7950s. *shrug* six of one, half-dozen of another.

As for a similar cooler on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608024

The first is the Nocuta NH-D14, without the socket 2011 bracket (meaning for use with i7-3770k). The second is the same thing, but with the bracket for use with the i7-3930k.
    
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Thanks for the help and suggestions. With upgrading to a 7970 and adding the Noctua to the 3930K the total with taxes and shipping it comes out to under $2400 vs $2600 WITHOUT a GPU or case. So that is at least another $450+ between a decent card and moderate-mid priced case.

So that is already a savings of at least $600. Plus this pretty much meets all my requirements. I don't really NEED 10 SATA ports since I only have 10 drive mounts total in the case. If I did need all 10 I wouldn't have an ODD anyway, so 9 should be enough if i only end up using the drive cage mounts, which I probably will. That gives me 8 drives total and my ODD. Will update OP right now.
post #25 of 34
Glad I could help.

Just make sure it's not an XFX Double-D 7970. XFX has some seriously shoddy quality control for their coolers with this latest generation of cards. Pretty much all of the other custom coolers are well-received.
    
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Ok list updated. I added a little post under the list about fan choices, if you guys have any recommendations for some decent CFM 3 pin fans, feel free to suggest them. But the Arctics I am looking at seem pretty good.
post #27 of 34
Well you won't want to replace the Noctua fans, they're really good. As for your case fans... *shrug* I don't follow case fans, so I have no idea.
    
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post #28 of 34
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No, definitely not replacing the Noctuas, just the case fans. Maybe I will ask in cooling about some great fans or something, until then, thanks for the help everyone. =] Feel free to keep making suggestions if you feel something can be improved upon. Now that I am down to maybe $2500 I have a lot to work with if I want to add anything else.
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That looks great, thanks for the recommendation!. I was also looking into a new mechanical keyboard since this one that came with my old pc sucks in the cold. XD It doesn't like to type letters at times, especially at 40 and below. I was looking into a Linear Force tenkeyless with MX blacks. How much do you know about keyboards?
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