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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I'm looking to make a simple server to share files/media between family and friends.

I'm a newb in the server field so be easy on me and use terms I can understand.

Right now I'm running freeNAS 8 and have it connected on my network fine but can't get ftp or ssh to connect for me. I have port 22 forwarded and made a static ip.

(I guess I have a few questions).

1. I'm trying to use filezilla. The computer (non server) I installed it on. Will it need to be running all the time for people to connect to my server?

2. Is there any other server programs that are easier to work with? (Tried windows server 2012. Real confusing for a newb.

In the past I tried fedora with amahi and got stuck at the same point. Home network fine. Remote access no luck.

I know this post was kinda all over the place but I have been awake for a while so I'll edit after some sleep if it makes no sense
post #2 of 10
http://www.xlightftpd.com/

Extremely easy to use! (For Windows based machines)
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks man. Ill give it a shot!
post #4 of 10
If you have a dedicated box - Home Server 2011 for Ease of Use and secure remote access. Plus you get a free domain from Microsoft. $50ish OEM. Server 2012 sucks for us IT Pros too. For the linux side, FreeNas is about the best you are going to get.

Are you sure your ISP is not blocking port 22? Do you have cable or DSL? If you have DSL, do you have a modem or an all-in-one device? If it is an all in one, chances are it is performing NAT and thus blocking port 22 unless its specifically allowed through the firewall.
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by meckert15834 View Post

I'm looking to make a simple server to share files/media between family and friends.

I'm a newb in the server field so be easy on me and use terms I can understand.

Right now I'm running freeNAS 8 and have it connected on my network fine but can't get ftp or ssh to connect for me. I have port 22 forwarded and made a static ip.

(I guess I have a few questions).

1. I'm trying to use filezilla. The computer (non server) I installed it on. Will it need to be running all the time for people to connect to my server?

2. Is there any other server programs that are easier to work with? (Tried windows server 2012. Real confusing for a newb.

In the past I tried fedora with amahi and got stuck at the same point. Home network fine. Remote access no luck.

I know this post was kinda all over the place but I have been awake for a while so I'll edit after some sleep if it makes no sense

1. Yes, the filezilla server application has to run all the time for people to be able to connect.

2. Server 2012 does not suck for us IT Pros. Server 2012 is fantastic and is what I run. For someone who hasn't used Windows Server much, i don't recommend it unless you want to learn. For just a file server, there are so many other options out there. I say stick with FreeNAS if it fits your needs, but lets figure out your SSH/FTP issue.

As far as your SSH issue, first make sure SSH is enabled on your FreeNAS box. Default port is 22, unless you have changed it. Make sure your FreeNAS box has a static IP on your LAN. Now from a different computer on the same network, can you SSH to it? If you can't SSH from your LAN, then no point worrying about port forwarding on your firewall just yet. Check the firewall on FreeNAS and make sure it has port 22 open, or just disable the firewall. Make sure you can ping the FreeNAS IP from your computer (or another computer on your network). If you can ping it but can't SSH, then download AngryIP scanner (or something like it) and do a port scan to check and see if the port is open on your FreeNAS box, or try to telnet to it on port 22.
Once you can SSH into your FreeNAS box from your LAN, forward port 22 on your firewall and route it to the static IP of your FreeNAS box. Ensure you either have a public static IP, or use a Dynamic DNS service (i.e. No-IP, DynDNS, etc) so you can route to your network over the internet.

Let us know if you can't get it working. If you like FreeNAS, don't give up on it.
post #6 of 10
Three Things about 2012:

1. "Modern Interface and no easy way around it for local administration.

2. 2K3/XP GPOs dont play nice. You would be surprised how much of my old company is still running XP and it is a Technology company.

3. Powershell scripting shoved down everyone's throat.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by kyle5281 View Post

Three Things about 2012:

1. "Modern Interface and no easy way around it for local administration.

2. 2K3/XP GPOs dont play nice. You would be surprised how much of my old company is still running XP and it is a Technology company.

3. Powershell scripting shoved down everyone's throat.

1 and 3 kinda cancel each other out. With Server 2012, Powershell 3.0 was release along with cmdlets for every Microsoft product. I use Server 2012 daily, and I never have to use the Modern interface. What local administration are you doing that requires the Modern interface?

Regarding the GPO statement, that makes me think that you have upgrades your DCs as well as your domain and forest levels to Server 2012, since having Server 2012 DCs running at a lower domain/forest level should act just the same as if they were running Server 2008R2. I know there are several companies still running XP, and honestly it's basically their fault. XP is done come next April. If your company isn't in the middle of migrating to Win7, or at least planning the migration, you are behind according to Microsoft. Why would you roll out Server 2012 DCs and raise your domain and forest levels, if you were still running XP? I'm a consultant dealing primarily with System Center products, and a lot of my clients are currently bringing me in to stand up SCCM and get their migration started.
post #8 of 10
Before I left the migration is already in progress. Most non-technical departments are running windows 7 - I was just using that to illustrate a point of Microsoft's fantasy world of thinking everybody can upgrade at a fast pace. That being said, Microsoft would still support us after EOL if we happened to still be running XP.

I don't think its a horrible OS. Alot of good improvements have been made. The more I use it (running 3 VMs of 2012 on my ESXi Box, I enjoy the subtle improvements in functionality.

That being said - I think that Microsoft did not consult with most businesses before changing to a non-intuitive GUI and dropping all support for older systems. I don't want my servers to be a wanna be windows phone. Modern is counter intuitive unless you are using it on a touchscreen computer or remotely managing it.

I don't really like how they shoved change on everybody, especially on Server. I do especially like however the improvements to Hyper-V and Server Manager.

I think the hardest part to swallow is having to completely relearn what used to be extremely simple tasks locally because Microsoft decided to turn windows into windows phone for the hell of it.

P.S. We run SCCM just moved to 2012 on our ~ 100,000 machines. I love the new features.

/Off Topic Server 2012 Rant.
/Thread Jack
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
I have been working all day and nees to be back in at 2am.

When I have some spare time ill give out some reps and try what you guys said.

Thanks for the help
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by kyle5281 View Post

Before I left the migration is already in progress. Most non-technical departments are running windows 7 - I was just using that to illustrate a point of Microsoft's fantasy world of thinking everybody can upgrade at a fast pace. That being said, Microsoft would still support us after EOL if we happened to still be running XP.

I don't think its a horrible OS. Alot of good improvements have been made. The more I use it (running 3 VMs of 2012 on my ESXi Box, I enjoy the subtle improvements in functionality.

That being said - I think that Microsoft did not consult with most businesses before changing to a non-intuitive GUI and dropping all support for older systems. I don't want my servers to be a wanna be windows phone. Modern is counter intuitive unless you are using it on a touchscreen computer or remotely managing it.

I don't really like how they shoved change on everybody, especially on Server. I do especially like however the improvements to Hyper-V and Server Manager.

I think the hardest part to swallow is having to completely relearn what used to be extremely simple tasks locally because Microsoft decided to turn windows into windows phone for the hell of it.

P.S. We run SCCM just moved to 2012 on our ~ 100,000 machines. I love the new features.

/Off Topic Server 2012 Rant.
/Thread Jack

I scoped and deployed an ConfigMgr 2012 environment for a client that had 120,000 computers across the globe. Boy, that was probably the most fun thing that I have done. It's great to have, but when you have a company as large as yours, that's when you really get to see the benefits of the product. With the additions provided in SP1, things are even better.
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