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They don't allow it because it is against the TOS/EULA. It has nothing to do with the "keys may be bad" issue.

And my examples were for used products in general, not software specifically
They don't allow it because it's impossible to police. Let's say you sell me a cd key for BF3, as soon as I get the email I give it to a friend, he activates it. I then go back to ebay/paypal/OCN ect and say that you gave me a key, but the key was already used. You have proof that the key was sent, but you have no proof that you used it.

It's both because it's against EULA and because there's no policing it.
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It's no different than someone sending you a defective part, or not sending it at all. There's no policing any of it, beyond rep. If I sell you a used CPU and then mail you an empty box, how is that any different? It's still your word against mine.
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well in case of steam you can download game how many times you want. so they cant charge new holder of licence because they have no costs at all, as one person could download from them thousand times

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well in case of steam you can download game how many times you want. so they cant charge new holder of licence because they have no costs at all, as one person could download from them thousand times

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Sure they gave a cost - bandwidth if nothing else. It's just that when you buy new, their cut of the sale pays that cost.
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Hey folks, mind watching the double posting? Please edit your posts instead.

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hope valve wins
     
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why you as consumers are so against it? This is nothing but good news to us, how they implement this reselling thing is their problem, not consumers.

Don't know why americans are so eager to give away their rights, go to the philippines where you don't have consumer rights,the the government officials and the law enforcers are above the law.
Edited by ghostrider85 - 2/2/13 at 3:05pm
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why you as consumers are so against it? This is nothing but good news to us, how they implement this reselling thing is their problem, not consumers.

Don't know why americans are so eager to give away their rights, go to the philippines where you don't have consumer rights,the the government officials and the law enforcers are above the law.
I don't see the problem in the first place. We already get 10-75% off discounts. Not to mention the huge Summer/Winter Sales we get. What do you want Vavle to do next? Get on their knee's for you guys? I dont get this "hope Valve loses" attitude. Probably bet most of you guys want to get rid of your 5$ Deus Ex:HR and many other triple A's that go 66-75% off during the sales.
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I don't see the problem in the first place. We already get 10-75% off discounts. Not to mention the huge Summer/Winter Sales we get. What do you want Vavle to do next? Get on their knee's for you guys? I dont get this "hope Valve loses" attitude. Probably bet most of you guys want to get rid of your 5$ Deus Ex:HR and many other triple A's that go 66-75% off during the sales.

So because they give you good deals, they have the right to side step laws?

That's ridiculous.
 
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So because they give you good deals, they have the right to side step laws?

That's ridiculous.

I remember typing a few essay posts regarding PC gamers selling out on their morals for cheap games.

This is basically an example of that.

Except the good deals are many a time not good deals, but carefully planned spur of the moment or glorified temporary sales specifically engineered to prey on the impulse buying nature of a shopper/gamer. Many, MANY of those impulse buys are never played even one time.

That's not a good deal in those cases. That's psychological extortion. Making people feel happy they got something they weren't actually interested in buying five minutes ago is what people usually call salesmanship, not friendship.

Not saying its a hugely bad thing or something unique to Steam sales, but I really wish people would just call it what it is,
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