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Buy all the games at 75% off sell all the games at full price.... yeah thats gonna be fun.
    
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Good. I hope Valve lose.
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I hope Valve looses this one.
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Buy all the games at 75% off sell all the games at full price.... yeah thats gonna be fun.

exactly, I see no logical way this can work, and work successfully at that. Used games are pointless when you have the publishers and developers themselves offering their games up at a steep discount. We'll just see sale prices a lot less often.

There are far more pressing issues when it comes to digital distribution IMO, like whether or not you actually own the game or your license can be revoked at any minute.
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Wow...All these people saying they hope that Valve loses. Do you realize what reselling games would do to the market, and in return to Valve, and in return to us..the consumers? Nope, because most people's understanding of business on this forum is beyond lacking.

Let us take a look at the scenario where they would allow us to resell our used games.
There is a Market button on steam, that allows you to buy used games at a cheaper price. There is a quantity of those games being sold. Lets say it is 40% cheaper than the original price. We of course will buy the used games, rather than the new ones. The company that made the game, now gets no money, Valve, now gets no money from sales of the new games, and in return this will Lead to developers who already hate PC gamers, develop even less, due to lower revenue returns and quantity of games sold. Valve in return won't be able to afford to give us the Sale prices that we get right now, which let's be honest, a lot of you LOVE buying games for 1-10$ each, which you could not do with a console game even if it was used. In the end, the developers would either do even LESS for PC gamers, which they have every right to do if they get no money from used games, than they will take their business elsewhere, OR the developers will increase the prices of the games, and Valve will stop doing it's sale prices, which lets be honest is probably more than half of your steam Library comes from Sale Prices. Either way the consumer will hurt more in the end.

There is a way around it so that Valve still makes some money back, as well as the company that made the game, by let's say, getting 20% of the sold Used game's price. So lets say you sell a game for 10$, you get 8, and the rest goes to Valve/Developers. But, if this is the case, I still think they would stop doing their sales, since than there would be a problem of what is the right price for X used video game, do I sell it at a discount of the original, or do I sell it at a discount of the Discounted price I bought it at? Ect ect. Honestly there is little you can do, to make it so that the consumer is happy in this situation.

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I hope Valve looses this one.
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Good. I hope Valve lose.


I can't believe all these people are lining up to cheerlead in favor of giving the courts the power to run steam. Maybe the EU can decide what games should be on the next summer sale too!

Turning steam into ebay for games has more than a small chance of fundamentally breaking the service.
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Or only make the games you have bought for full price resellable and only make it possible to be resold once.
    
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Totally agree with the last 2 posts :thumbs:

No matter how you split the revenue from the used games you're still looking at a lesser value as a consumer. Say goodbye to getting games for 75% off just a few months after release.

edit: well the two posts before the one right above, that is a decent idea though Stuuut
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A few things

1. Why should Valve get a cut of ANY game sold from your account? They shouldn't and there is no reason they should.

2. It would be quite easy for Steam to allow the transfer of games between accounts.

3. I said this to some of you a while ago

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4. In response to some of the silly comments above. The company that makes the game gets no money from the resale. No, and why should they? The person reselling the game gets all/most of the money because they initially bought it and they are getting their money back. The used game market has existed for over 20 years and over the last 2-3 it's suddenly become a big problem? No.Gaming is the BIGGEST entertainment industry and that was built on the back of preowned games.

Publishers already load new games with bonuses and extras. Quite simply, second hand games will be devoid of those and unpaid DLC will not be given free to anyone who doesn't buy first hand. So they will still make money from the current model.

If you think the game market will collapse, think again. Preowned games are a consumer right and Valve have no right flaunting the law. Simple as that.
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A few things

1. Why should Valve get a cut of ANY game sold from your account? They shouldn't and there is no reason they should.

2. It would be quite easy for Steam to allow the transfer of games between accounts.

3. I said this to some of you a while ago

What about the publishers? do they get a cut?
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