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[Ars] Booting Linux instead of Windows 8 bricks some Samsung laptops

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Originally Posted by Jon Brodkin 
Linux desktop enthusiasts have been booting their operating systems of choice on computers designed for Windows for years now. Windows 8, however, poses some unique challenges because systems with the "Designed for Windows 8" logo must ship with the UEFI secure boot mechanism enabled. That prevents the booting of OSes lacking a signature from a trusted Certificate Authority.

The Linux Foundation came up with a general fix that can address a variety of systems, and there are also solutions designed for specific types of computers. It turns out one of those fixes didn't quite work, and now numerous Samsung laptops are being bricked—that is, rendered unusable and unfixable without a motherboard replacement—when users boot Linux using UEFI.

Booting Linux instead of Windows 8 bricks some Samsung laptops


Be careful.

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One reader pointed us to a post by Linux developer Matthew Garrett, who notes that "Samsung apparently changed their platform interface when they moved to UEFI, but didn't actually do anything to prevent old drivers from breaking things." The good news is "some of the machines that are affected by this predate Secure Boot, so at least it's not a Secure Boot bug."
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post #2 of 46
How?
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Who designs these things, seriously.

MS, why. You know VERY well that a massive amount of your customer base MUST dual-boot. Go look at your corporate sector. Also. no one wants a locked down system.

/edit

So this somehow QUAD posted.... awesome. (looks fixed now).
Edited by doomlord52 - 2/1/13 at 10:11am
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If you had an internship with Microsoft last summer, they gave you a Samsung Series 9 ultrabook smile.gif

the summer before, people only got left over Xbox's with "Microsoft Intern" engraved on it -_-
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***? are you kidding me M$. And why in gods name is Samsung going along with this BS?! this is just BS. mad.gif
    
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post #6 of 46
Sounds like they're trying to boot Linux with Secure Boot enabled.

The simple fix (for anyone not bricked that is) is to just disable Secure Boot until a proper fix comes out.

All the posters so far have a serious lack of knowledge as to how Secure Boot really works.

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One reader pointed us to a post by Linux developer Matthew Garrett, who notes that "Samsung apparently changed their platform interface when they moved to UEFI, but didn't actually do anything to prevent old drivers from breaking things." The good news is "some of the machines that are affected by this predate Secure Boot, so at least it's not a Secure Boot bug."

This needs to be added to the OP.
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post #7 of 46
I'm guessing a few of you guys didn't actually read the article.
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post #8 of 46
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Originally Posted by Fantasy View Post

***? are you kidding me M$. And why in gods name is Samsung going along with this BS?! this is just BS. mad.gif

It's a driver bug -_-

you guys are so quick to jump on the hate
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It's a driver bug -_-

you guys are so quick to jump on the hate

I'm jumping on the hate because once again we have to jump through hoops and be again more informed than any other group of users. It was intentionally made to be difficult there's big reasons MS went the way they did and so if an OEM does something like Samsung and doesn't inform the community then we have these situations. I just don't get why OEMs cut off their nose to spite their face with these things. How much extra effort does it really take them to make sure other OSes can work? Not much.
     
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post #10 of 46
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I'm jumping on the hate because once again we have to jump through hoops and be again more informed than any other group of users. It was intentionally made to be difficult there's big reasons MS went the way they did and so if an OEM does something like Samsung and doesn't inform the community then we have these situations. I just don't get why OEMs cut off their nose to spite their face with these things. How much extra effort does it really take them to make sure other OSes can work? Not much.

why should Windows deal with that? All they're liable for is ensuring their own OS works on the hardware. I'd be surprised if Microsoft bends over backwards to ensure proper capability for a competitor. Again, driver issue, given by Samsung. Windows didn't make the hardware...
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