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Apparently reading previous posts is a lost art. He is running an h61 chipset. A k model is pointless without a significant mobo upgrade. OP if you really feel the need to get a true quad then a regular I5 3570 would be my choice for your current setup its cheaper than a 2500k and clock for clock 10% faster. However gaming wise I dont think the increase will be enough to justify the cost. Your current cpu isnt creating any sort of bottleneck for your 660. What else do you do with the computer?

But.........
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I'll upgrade to the i5-2500k after I have gotten a new mobo
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From what you've said in other messages, I'd strongly urge you to get an SSD. Reformatting frequently isn't a reason to not do this. On the contrary, once you've seen how fast you can load things on one, you'll never want to go back to waiting for a spinner.

It's been many years since a tech upgrade made as big a difference as putting an SSD in your system. Just do it.
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I get where you guys are coming from and I think he was in the right for bringing up overclocking solely because we happen to be on overclock.net lol. Aside from that, I will never EVER buy another H model motherboard solely for the fact that you can't overclock with it. I only bought one this time around because I was more focused on a budget friendly gaming rig rather then an all out overclockers power build. Do I regret it now? Sure.. somewhat. It's a decent motherboard, and so far the combo between my 660Ti and the 2120 has proved to be incredible. All my games just pop out, including BF3. I mean, I'm usually getting a solid 60+ FPS in multiplayer. The only times I don't is if I have something like Steam running in the background or something of that nature. I feel like with what I do.. which is essentially just play BF3 and Dead Island(anything else is just school related), this combo works perfectly, and when you consider the fact that I don't have a true 1080p monitor, it wouldn't make sense to build anything more extravagant.

With all that being said, I needed a replacement keyboard because I am currently typing out tons of notes in school for this deaf guy the school has paired me up with(I get paid for it), so I had to spend money on a TKL keyboard that could easily fit in my backpack, and is a joy to type on. The next purchase for my computer will most likely be the i5-2500k, rather then a new motherboard that has overclocking abilities. Then once I have gathered more funds, I'll get a compatible motherboard, and then begin overclocking again. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the point in getting the motherboard first, and then the i5. Either way, it's not like I would be able to do anything with the 2120 anyways lol, so why not just upgrade the processor first if I am eventually going to overclock it, right?

tl/dr tongue.gif

Oh also... now that alan has found that quote that I forgot I even posted, I do feel like a mook, but I think maybe before I wasn't thinking things through. Not sure what the general consensus on that would be, but I think that it wouldn't matter which one I upgrade to first since I can't buy both at the same time.

The only reason I would consider getting a new motherboard is because this Asus currently has REALLY awful compatibility with a large number of optical drives, and installing linux. I have to plug in an external CD drive JUST to restore my linux partition whenever I format my Windows partition. It's pretty useless when it comes to that. Luckily my laptop runs whatever linux OS I want without a fuss, so I mostly just do my things on there.
Edited by xH2L - 2/3/13 at 4:49am
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yes get a new mobo and the 2500k you won't be dissapointed

ssd can't be overlooked either, I use just a 64gb ssd for my OS, drivers, and a few monitoring programs. I have a second SSD that only has origin and origin games on it for BF3 and it loads so fast.

also, you should go to rigbuilder and fill out your system components and specs, helps a ton when people are trying to help you to know what you are working with! biggrin.gif
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I wouldnt spendy any money on a new sandy bridge though. A 3570k outperforms it by about 10% clock for clock and right now is cheaper. Haswell is just around the corner too as the 1155 socket is done and they are changing to the 1150 now.
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yes get a new mobo and the 2500k you won't be dissapointed

ssd can't be overlooked either, I use just a 64gb ssd for my OS, drivers, and a few monitoring programs. I have a second SSD that only has origin and origin games on it for BF3 and it loads so fast.

also, you should go to rigbuilder and fill out your system components and specs, helps a ton when people are trying to help you to know what you are working with! biggrin.gif

Once I acquire the funds, the first upgrades are the 2500k and a new motherboard, no questions asked.

I'm not really in favor of the SSDs, but you have brought up a very valid point that I haven't considered until now. For a while I have been contemplating buying a new hard drive to store all of my game files on so that I don't have to re-download and re-install everything all over again when I format my computer. I think I will definitely buy an SSD now to store my BF3 and Origin files as well as my Steam games. I never really thought of that and mostly I was just going for capacity over speed, but I think now I'm leaning more towards the SSD. I am really glad now I didn't just go out and purchase a new hard drive on a whim because I'm pretty sure I want a SSD for my game files lol, so thanks for that suggestion mtbiker033!

As for the rig builder thing, I don't want to sound too douchey, but I would prefer not to fill out useless crap(at least not at the moment), as I rarely ever need help with this stuff. The only reason I was posting this was because I was hoping to get some personal experience on the matter, rather then just copy and paste opinions that everyone on the Internet seems to have. I have done my own research on this topic as well and to be honest, almost all of the forums and tech sites say the exact same thing. The 2120 really is a top-contender when it comes to budgetary gaming processors and they even stand up to some of the top-tier processors with regards to gaming. This is how I look at it... keep in mind I use a Dell Ultrasharp monitor with a resolution of 1440x900. If I was utilizing a FULL 1080p monitor, and not one of those undecided 1080i monitors, if I upgraded just the 2120 to the 2500k with NO OTHER upgrades and NO overclocking, at best I would probably see a 5-6FPS increase, which is almost completely negligible since I get a steady 62-63FPS as it is right now. Aside from the small FPS increase, I would *maybe* get a small performance increase in anti-aliasing or shadows, but realistically, that's the extent of the performance increases with regards to BF3 and the other game I play which is Dead Island. Now, when I apply that whole tl/dr analysis to my Ultrasharp monitor, almost all of those performance increases virtually disappear lol.

So since I can't upgrade the things I would need to in order to experience any of those performance increases and others, it made sense to go and spend money on the next best thing, which just happened to be a more expensive and reliable keyboard. tongue.gif Besides, games are like #6 on my list of important things, with breathing as #1 and staying on top of my schoolwork as #2, so dropping money on game-related equipment just wouldn't be prudent. Gaming equipment are more *wants* then *needs*. tongue.gif

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I wouldnt spendy any money on a new sandy bridge though. A 3570k outperforms it by about 10% clock for clock and right now is cheaper. Haswell is just around the corner too as the 1155 socket is done and they are changing to the 1150 now.

First off, the 3570k isn't cheaper then the 2500k. I could get a brand new OEM 2500k from ebay or amazon for $170-180 with free shipping(less if I bought used from a reputable source like some members here in the Marketplace), while the 3570k still retails for over $200. Second, the 2500k is still a better overclocker then the 3570k. Aside from those two large contributing factors in my decision making process on which processor to purchase, ever since the SB processors came out I have always gushed over the 2500k mostly because of the incredible price to performance ratio you get, especially when you factor in its incredible overclocking abilities. I also never really had any interest in the i7s mainly because of their price point, and because I would never find myself in a situation where I would need more processing speed and power then what the 2500k already offers you. The only reason I bought the 2120 in the first place was because it was purely budgetary related, and because in its class and above, it was a top-rated gaming processor. It certainly delivers the goods though, so I don't regret purchasing it and unless I really need the money to offset some of the cost of upgrading parts in my rig, I most likely won't sell it. I'll just find another use for it. Hmm... maybe it can go into a small/cheap linux terminal build. Blah blah blah... tongue.gif

As for the migration of processor sockets, I'm really not worrying too much about that. First off, I'm not the kind of person that runs out and buys the next-best-thing or the newest hardware on the market. When I find something that works nicely, I pretty much stick with it for a long time, or for as long as I can anyways lol. Second, I realize that 1150 is coming out as a replacement for 1155, but I don't really see the 1155 socket being completely phased out. The 1155 socket has a pretty large userbase and very wide support from almost all companies around the world. I don't know all of the details on the 1150 socket right now, and I admit I haven't cared to do much reading on it yet, but from what I can see with regards to the technology market right now with the exception of a few things of course, backwards compatibility seems to be something that's emerging more and more. Just look at what happened with PCIe x16 3.0. A lot of motherboards that are coming out supporting 3.0 still also have backwards compatibility for 2.0 gpus. It wasn't like companies completely phased out 2.0 support because if they did, then they would have lost a large portion of potential buyers wanting to buy their motherboards, but would ultimately decide against it because their fairly new and expensive cards wouldn't be compatible. I realize I am talking about two different things here, processors and gpu slots, but I think the concept is pretty similar.

Also, I realize I am saying all this on OCN, and we do have a massive amount of modders and geeks(this is a compliment lol) here that want the latest and greatest and will gladly and immediately shell out the cash for it, but I am saying all this in reference to the larger portion of these companies' global consumer markets. You think that these companies come out with all this hardware to cater to the needs and wants of a few thousand hardcore computer / tech consumers? If they did, they wouldn't be in business for very long... or maybe they are just small specialty companies. Intel isn't however, and they lead the world in processor development, and I don't see them phasing out 1155 support for a long time, even after they roll out their new and upcoming socket/sockets(because there will always be something new).

I don't know really though, I could just be shooting in the air here I guess because nowadays the technology market could go one way or the other. People can always post their predictions and what not, but nothing is ever set in stone until the products are actually confirmed and/or released. Hmm... all this talk about new and old sockets makes me flashback to when the Nehalem's were released only a year and half, give or take a few months, after the release of the Conroe's/Kentsfield. I wonder what people were saying a few years ago when their code-names were being leaked/released at the time:rolleyes: Also another thing to consider is that Pentiums and Celerons are still being produced to this day, and while I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Nehalems and the Sandy Bridge's have as large a following now as the Pentiums and Celerons did back in the day, I consider them to be extremely successful and to have an enormous following purely from the average-consumer-grade market standpoint while putting their incredible performance achievements aside, just for arguments sake.

These are just my thoughts, observations, and opinions of course... Please call me out if I make any mistakes or accidentally fuse opinions with cold hard facts and stats.

Also, yeah yeah I know... tl/dr. Ya'll have a nice day now!
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