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Heyoh everybodeee!
I've heard alot of different things about the different 1155 chipsets providing diffrerent overclocking capabilities, and I was wondering if anyone could give me some solid clarification on it all....

I'm currently in the process of putting together a MicroATX build.
So far I've got:

CASE: Fractal Design mATX case
CPU: 3570k
RAM: 8gigs of patriot or corsair 1600mhz
HD: WD Black 1TB
PSU: OCZ ModXStreamPro 700W
GPU: my trusty-dusty MSI HAWK GTX460 -- will be upgraded eventually.
COOLING: Thermaltake Water2.0 Performer

Now here's the problem: I've got a creative X-Fi Xtremegamer (which I will NOT be doing away with unless it breaks or I find an incredible deal on something else) which is a PCI card, so that narrows down my mobo options A LOT.... rolleyes.gif

I've been perusing through Z77 boards, and I've kinda settled on the ASUS P8Z77-M.
It's one of the only Z77 boards that appears to have a PCI slot far enough from the video card to allow sufficient airflow (the GTX460 is a dual-slot card with two bottom-facing fans)

However, there are several B75/H61 boards out there that are laid out perfectly for my requirements....but I've heard that the OC'ing on anything beside the Z77's is really limited.

I don't plan to OC a ton, and if it would work better (and be cheaper) to get a B75 board and just not OC, then I could be ok with that.
But I'm just wondering what the real deal is with overclocking on 1155 chipsets other than Z77.


Thanks in advance.... smile.gif


PS: feel free to critique the build if you wish. tongue.gif
    
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As I understand it, only Z77 boards are worth purchasing if you want to do any overclocking at all.

 

Edit:  Of course, this includes P67 and Z68, but I am just trying to stay current.

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Okay, thanks. What, precisely, is the "Bclk" spec I see in some of the comparison charts?
    
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Okay, thanks. What, precisely, is the "Bclk" spec I see in some of the comparison charts?

 

I'm not sure, but the BCLK is the Base Clock.  It's shown in CPU-Z as the Bus Speed.

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Okeydoke, thanks. smile.gif
    
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BCLK can be adjustable on some none z77 boards, but it isn't a main aspect of overclocking, you basically want to OC with the multiplier on LGA1155, and you can do that only with Z77 for the most part other than Z68 and P67, but you should stay with Z77 since you are using ivy.

BCLK can be adjustable up to almost 110mhz under air, but it also can cause instability and require more vcore, so most people just OC with the multiplier.

B75 can't OC, it can do some memory OC depending on your CPU.
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