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Score one for me!


Nicely done! Does your case have any front intake?
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Nicely done! Does your case have any front intake?

Score -2 for me!

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Score -2 for me!


Ouch.

Why don't you go ahead, and power your rig down now. Install your 2 guards on those internal fans and get back to me when you're up to regulation, mmmkay? thumb.gif
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Im more concerned about how Apple got away with not complying to be honest, rather than people making out this is some big deal aimed just at computers etc (It isn't most things have to comply to certain regs be it RF, Electrical safety whatever, each regulation isn't targeted at one product solely).
So why does this company not get hit with a mass recall bill to retrofit the fixes to machines sold that didn't comply with the regulation in the time period before sales were/are halted?
Other companys in the same industry had to comply with these regs so why the special treatment?

"European Union
Apple products carry the "CE" mark as an indication of their conformity with relevant regulatory standards following the provisions of European Council Directives 73/23/EEC (Low Voltage Directive) and 89/336/EEC amended by 92/31/EEC (EMC Directive)."

Quoted from http://support.apple.com/kb/TA37785?viewlocale=en_US, would be interested if the machines in question carried the ce mark or not as surely there should be some more comeback on them if it did.

Oh and guess what for the US folk
"United States
Apple products comply with CFR 47, Part 15 and Part 68 where applicable. Part 15 compliance has 2 classifications, A and B. Most Apple products are Class B, designed for use in the home or office. Class A products are approved for use only in a business or commercial environment and specifically not in the home. Either a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) ID number or an FCC logo is visible on the product label. Part 68 requirements are for products that provide a direct connection to a telephone line such as a modem. A registration number for Part 68 is visible on the product label. Additional information for Part 15 and Part 68 can be found in the product manual."

OMG Apple products had to comply to some US regulation as well what a nanny state the US has become also....

The above may not be the relevant regulations btw but if they carried the CE mark then they had to comply with whatever was laid out in them.
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If you read the article the Mac Pro complied with regulation up until the recent amendment.

unless you want the goverment to foot the bill for the recall then i dont see how the onus on the manufacturer to retro-actively recall these machines.
 
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Ouch.

Why don't you go ahead, and power your rig down now. Install your 2 guards on those internal fans and get back to me when you're up to regulation, mmmkay? thumb.gif

1600 and 2200 RPM respectfully ( serious, I do respect them fans * looks at knuckles * )

I'm just waiting for my other twin pack of SP120's to come back from RMA, then my computer will be full of hurt.
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If you read the article the Mac Pro complied with regulation up until the recent amendment.

This. And it's the EOL for the specific Mac Pro's. No reason to waste money on a product that's already getting a revamp anyways.
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And if we don't agree with them, shall we not point out the flaws?

I'm all for pointing out the flaws out in our laws, my point is simply that we (in America) have plenty of stupid laws that most citizens just sit back and accept and it seems like it's not only an American problem. That's all I was saying.
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If you read the article the Mac Pro complied with regulation up until the recent amendment.

unless you want the goverment to foot the bill for the recall then i dont see how the onus on the manufacturer to retro-actively recall these machines.

Well Apple are just using it as an excuse to pull them for whatever reason then as the rule states

"Products that are certified by UL to previous Information Technology Equipment (ITE) Standards may continue to be certified without further investigation, unless otherwise communicated by UL. However, any significant changes made to these products will be evaluated to the Standard(s) used for new product submittals as of the date of the change request, i.e., UL 60950-1 Second Edition.
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So why the claims that this ruling is stopping the sales then?
In other words the new ruling wouldnt have effected their certification unless they made significant changes to the product.
    
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The mac pro has a cover on the fan.. on the outside. Is the issue that the inside of the case has no cover?
    
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er weird double post.
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The mac pro has a cover on the fan.. on the outside. Is the issue that the inside of the case has no cover?

there's no grille on the fan inside the case. So supposedly someone can remove the side cover and stick their fingers into the dual 92mms cooling the CPU. It's a stretch but it's "possible".

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actually nevermind i'm thinking of the PowerMac (left):


you have to be removing a lot of covering while the thing is on to get in any danger really. But then again this regulation isnt only affecting the mac pro.
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