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Proper safety regs are good but this is most certainly on the nanny law side and should not have been implemented as is. The fans are clearly on the inside so they are protected. We already have way overkill regulations in a lot of areas. Next thing you know the engines in cars can't be exposed when you pop the hood (when the purpose of popping the hood is to expose the engine).

An example of an good safety reg is how all new installations of electrical outlets have to be of the tamper-resistant kind so that kids can't stick knitting needles or whatever in them.

And the ports are all on the outside (which is part of the regulations) and this is not a "Nanny State" bullcrap. The product was in foul for 2 years before the EC decided to enforce them, AND, Apple knew about the regulations and released anyway..
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post #152 of 196
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But I just demonstrated they are not in this context.

There are people the need multiprocessor work stations that why the big 3 PC vendors make them and Intel and AMD make processors. The release of Xeon Phi, and nVidia Tesla show the market for workstations is if not growing, at least thriving.

I'm talking about the cost of doing it yourself versus buying from an enterprise vendor. Enterprise is, by definition, overpriced for what you get.
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And the ports are all on the outside (which is part of the regulations)

Wait, what? I know one of the selling points for Apple products is attention to aesthetic detail, so why would they have big, gaping holes in the case that a child could stick their hands through?
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Wait, what? I know one of the selling points for Apple products is attention to aesthetic detail, so why would they have big, gaping holes in the case that a child could stick their hands through?

READ. THE. REGULATION.
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the new requirements necessitate fan guards and some increased protection on the ports on the electrical system.

Why the hell would they need massive gaping holes in the case for the fans and this has NOTHING to do with children!

Sometimes you guys could make a nun swear.
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READ. THE. REGULATION.

POST. A. LINK.
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Why the hell would they need massive gaping holes in the case for the fans and this has NOTHING to do with children!

They don't need them and they don't have them, which is entirely my point. Computer cases already have protective covers for exposed fans.
post #156 of 196
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Are you kidding me? How about you don't let your kid inside of your computer. And a fan is the big dangerous thing? Not the electrical shock?
We should keep the oven open as well, it will warm up the house at the same time. We just need to figure out how to monitor our children so they don't reach those dangerous areas in the house. Easy isn't it? Oh look knives on the floor. Just keep the children away and they should be fine. Who needs an airbag? Just be safe right?
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POST. A. LINK.
They don't need them and they don't have them, which is entirely my point. Computer cases already have protective covers for exposed fans.

It's right here, in the first post.
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And the ports are all on the outside (which is part of the regulations) and this is not a "Nanny State" bullcrap. The product was in foul for 2 years before the EC decided to enforce them, AND, Apple knew about the regulations and released anyway..

So you agree that the requirement for fan guards on the inside of an computer is ridicules? I don't know exactly what they mean by thees "ports" but as far as I can tell there is noting wrong with the mac pro PSU (well the mesh would be a bit more dense) and every thing on the outside of the PSU is 12V or less and that's not going to hurt anyone and even the law recognizes 12V DC as safe.
    
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But I just demonstrated they are not in this context.

There are people the need multiprocessor work stations that why the big 3 PC vendors make them and Intel and AMD make processors. The release of Xeon Phi, and nVidia Tesla show the market for workstations is if not growing, at least thriving.

I'm talking about the cost of doing it yourself versus buying from an enterprise vendor. Enterprise is, by definition, overpriced for what you get.

When you put a $50,000 software suite on a computer the HW doesn't come from bobs computer store or the dude down the hall. You got a problem you call Dell dude fly's/drives in with all the parts he needs to make your stuff run. When you're billing by the hour you don't have time to play stupid games stuff has to run.

If you really think it's cheaper start with an EVGA SR-X and a pair of E5 26xx and go from there.. There is a reason there isn't much profit in HW sales
 
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So you agree that the requirement for fan guards on the inside of an computer is ridicules? I don't know exactly what they mean by thees "ports" but as far as I can tell there is noting wrong with the mac pro PSU (well the mesh would be a bit more dense) and every thing on the outside of the PSU is 12V or less and that's not going to hurt anyone and even the law recognizes 12V DC as safe.

No, I think it's fine and I don't care about it.
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