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Ok, so I bought an Epox EP-9NPAJ SLI board (thinking it was the "+ SLi" model)
the seller made it right though, and refunded me about half the cost, so im doing well on the board

I dont know how I feel about the board, its missing features I wont particularly use, but isnt rated to OC as its big brother the 9NPA+ SLi model

I also traded my 6600GT's in for a 2x512mb set of corsair XMS PRO PC3500LL with the leds, which currently are running 270MHZ 1:1 with my 3000+.

I also was lucky enough to get the last, misplaced PNY 7900GS at bestbuy for $150.

Everything else is a system needs is being reused.

I dont have a ton of money currently tied up in the system, and could probably regain most of it. Especially if I keep the card in my new rig. But I also dont have a ton of money to spare. My mom threw me some money AFTER i bought the s939 mobo and ddr1 memory to upgrade my bros comp with my old parts.. so its made me come to a decision other than just buying the opty

So do I...


Do i buy an opty 165 or 170, AS5, and maybe a nice HD and call it a rig? (especially considering the rarity of "good" 2x1gb kits is increasing (so it doesnt seem to be the right choice)

or get a single core, cheaper processor for myself since I have to get one to put in my brothers comp. and just wait until I can get C2D?

I feel as though a good dual core processor will give me a bit of longevity, but the lack of 2gb's or ram is gonna bother me...

I want C2D but dont think i can make it happen


Gah, this is a terrible time to upgrade

HELP! lol
     
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Keep the HD and but an Opty 165 and some nice RAM. The DDR500 on tankguys is decently priced compared to the egg.
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Well C2D is rather Hyped IMO. Yes good CPU but an OPTY 165/170 will do the job still anyway.

I would Vote for the 165 Due to its overclocking potential and get some DDR500 to help with your Overclocking.
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Well C2D is rather Hyped IMO. Yes good CPU but an OPTY 165/170 will do the job still anyway.

I would Vote for the 165 Due to its overclocking potential and get some DDR500 to help with your Overclocking.
I agree that an Opty will still certainly do the trick for the vast majority of users. It's still a great chip, and performs fine.

However, I don't think the C2D's are "over" hyped at all. They are faster in most cases, and are still cheaper.

I think the decision ultimately comes down to this: Does the user already have an existing 939 setup (or, parts to use for it? DDR memory, etc). If so, an Opty is a good choice.

However, if it's a brand new build with a given budget, I'd pretty much always recommend a C2D.
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Well C2D is rather Hyped IMO.
I wonder when one who has never had a C2D says that they are "rather over-hyped". Price and performance have clearly shown which is the better processor. Is that opinion based on evidenciary logic ENTERPRISE1701? Please show the proof of your opinion.

I can show proof otherwise for pages and pages.

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However, if it's a brand new build with a given budget, I'd pretty much always recommend a C2D.
To do otherwise would be clear ignorance of the facts. I agree.
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I wonder when one who has never had a C2D says that they are "rather over-hyped". Price and performance have clearly shown which is the better processor. Is that opinion based on evidenciary logic ENTERPRISE1701? Please show the proof of your opinion.

I can show proof otherwise for pages and pages.



To do otherwise would be clear ignorance of the facts. I agree.
My Proof would be i Used to Use a C2D system alot at work..Not anymore though. However i do have first hand Experience with them.
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And you found it 'slow'?

I guess you did not use that thing to it's full potential... and I wonder what other components it had. Also, one of the strengths of the Core 2 Duo is overclockability, something I assume your boss would not let you do

and if it's a pre-build like a Dell... they're basically known for being able to make anything slow with all that software they dump on it.
    
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No No No. I dont find its slow at all. Just that Everyone is always like ''OMG get C2D'' When an Opty can do what you need Just fine.
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True. And I agree with Tankguys here.. if you have the existing socket 939 hardware, plug an opty in there. However, for a new rig, Core 2 Duo is the choice.
    
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Well, i guess an opty it is, think i should stick with the epox board I have? I mean, I dont wanna spend a ton on the system as its a dead end, I just was thinking, well if I spend 155-180 on a processor, why not make it a C2D, I dont know that I plan to upgrade the ram, especially where the board I got ended up not being the higher end model.

I figured since I didnt shell that much money out for it, it wouldnt be too bad to start again, but c2d with a midrange board is still expensive, i just like the flexibility with 2 or 4 sticks of memory that intel offers so I can upgrade.

My pc3500 is hitting 270ish 1:1 with no voltage increase... I dont know the max for the memory yet, so I figured i wouldnt push it just yet. and my system seems to top out at the same spot (280mh) as on the last board and the only remaining part is the CPU, so my guess is, my 3000+ isnt up for much higher.

and stop arguing about C2D it is great hardware, but I feel as though.. with the semi small list of games I WANT to play coming out on the PC, it may not be worth the C2D just yet. Also, if i am buying a processor its ok to stick with what i have, upgrading the memory to 2gb doesnt seem to be worth it, especially since my memory overclockes excellently and good ddr500 is tough to find...

a DS3, 6300, and 2x512mb of memory is ~500...hmmm lol
     
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