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Hey all,

Last night a clamp gave out on the tube attached to the inlet on the cpu cooler. I can only guess how it all played out after that, but the bottom line is that everything except the power supply and hard drives are dead. So I am writing this post from my kids pc.

After inspecting all of the fittings/rad/res/pump/tubes everything is near new condition, no corrosion or sludge of any sort. It has been running since January of 2011 nonstop on distilled water and a silver kill-coil. The pump is a D5 with setting at 4. The loop is pump>rad>cpu>gpu>res>pump. It took - a lot - of pressure on the clamps at the rad and cpu to keep them from leaking during the initial tests. That was mainly because anything lower than 4 and the CPU temps would get above 65c on prime95.

Anyway, I kind of want to get away from the whole barb/clamp method. But which compression fittings will hold that much pressure? I like the look of the monsoon parts, but are they worth the premium?

The other question is new cooling blocks. I have a CNC Mill, and I am considering designing my own blocks. Most of the new blocks are using this "micro-channel" design which is actually fairly simple to implement. And, the price for enough copper plate to make cpu/gpu/mem/vru/chipset coolers is about as much as new cpu block. Anyone have any experience building their own blocks? What were some of the issues you encountered?

My rad (360) and pump (d5) top/res are XSPC. And I never had any problem with them, so I will most likely keep them.

I run wcg 24/7 and daily CAD work and rendering, so a quad core and 16gb/ram are a minimum config. But I see a lot of conflicting info and opinions about 1155 vs 2011 or i7 vs Xeon cpu's at different clocks being the better rig. I don't want to overclock, speed doesn't help my work as much as multiple threads. My limit here is going to be about $1000 for MB/CPU/MEM.

As for GPU, I am open to suggestions. Only pc games right now are WoW, FarCry, and the upcoming ESO. But the CAD/Rendering apps like openGL over DX11. So a balanced card around $250 would be best.

Thanks for looking!
post #2 of 23
monsoons aren't that pricey as far as compressions go, I would recommend a 660 ti, but most would point you towards a 7870 or even a 7870 tahiti LE.
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Monsoons are cheap as crap for compression fittings, especially if you buy the 6-packs.
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Are you sure you have the right size tubing and fittings? I have never had a barb leak, even with out a clam on them. The clamps should just keep the tubing on, not stop it from leaking. If you really want to stop leaking, put 7/16 tubing on 1/2 fittings. 7/16 x 5/8 will work with any 1/2 x 5/8 fittings, but will fit hella tight. The best way is to heat up some water to almost boiling and dip the tubing in to soften it up, then put it on the fittings.
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I had the 1/2x3/4 black PrimoFlex LRT on Bitspower 1/2" barbs with the locking nylon 3/4 clamps. The tubing was snug on the barbs in the beginning, but when I bumped the pump up to 4 they all started to leak, that is why I put clamps on.

Monsoon are about $40/6 or about $6ea. The Bitspower barbs only cost me about $3.50/ea when I bought them. So it seems like a premium price. After seeing your comment I checked around and found that Bitspower compression are about $9/ea. I stand corrected, thank you for pointing that out.

ATI typically has better OpenGL support. That is why I had one originally. So I will look at the difference between the 660 and the 7870.
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2011 pin CPU and a x79 if you got the cash 7950 is a great gpu .

Thats $569.99 just for CPU 6 core. If your doing alot of muilt thread apps mite look into amd set up . Also the i7 970 Is a 6 core but older platform x58 , could grab a x 79 chipset and a 4 core CPU @$ 289.99 .

Best bet is 3770k and up5 and Samsung wonder ram 1600mhz I hit 2000 MHz on mine .
But x79 new chips In fall, also 1150 chip set In June
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You could just go with metal clamps i use metal clamps on mine and they are so tight they are hard to get on even could downsize your tubing to 7/16 also it fits tight and less chance of leaks.
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You could just go with metal clamps i use metal clamps on mine and they are so tight they are hard to get on even could downsize your tubing to 7/16 also it fits tight and less chance of leaks.

I used to use metal clamps like those chrome Koolance, still do actually. But I much prefer the looks the milled clamps instead.

Check out these metal clamps:




For compressions, I've used all kinds, BP, Enzo, Ek, etc. I've switched over all my rigs to XSPC compressions now. They look decent and their clamping ability is superior to the others. I've had leaks from the other compressions and at some point I just had enough. In simple loops it would not leak if used correctly, but in complex loops where you at times have to contort tubes I will only use XSPC compressions now.


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I used to use metal clamps like those chrome Koolance, still do actually. But I much prefer the looks the milled clamps instead.

Check out these metal clamps:




For compressions, I've used all kinds, BP, Enzo, Ek, etc. I've switched over all my rigs to XSPC compressions now. They look decent and their clamping ability is superior to the others. I've had leaks from the other compressions and at some point I just had enough. In simple loops it would not leak if used correctly, but in complex loops where you at times have to contort tubes I will only use XSPC compressions now.

Image is broke but i use these metal clamps from primochill they work great and are super tight have to wrestle to get them on lol. No breaking or leaking with them i had a leak till i put them on and then the leaks were gone beware when they snap back they hurt lol i had a finger that turned black for days when i let one snap back trying to put it on lol felt like i broke my finger lol.

https://www.jab-tech.com/PrimoChill-Black-Steel-Spring-Hose-Clamps-for-3-4in.OD-Tubing-pr-4762.html
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^^Pliers man, pliers. I have some of those primo clamps. And you're right they are tight, too snug for my tastes though.
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