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Why do consumers need quad-channel memory?
Why do consumer need more cores? Most consumer workloads are not that parallel.

Besides, what the mainstream market really wants is lower-power consumption... not more cores or performance.
The server market wants more performance per watt through more cores or higher IPC.

What enthusiasts want isn't that relevant.
There's nothing that would stop Intel from integrating into HSA.

Why do you have to bring logic into this thread? Can't we just desire a lot of cores that we may or may not fully utilize. wink.gif
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Why do you have to bring logic into this thread? Can't we just desire a lot of cores that we may or may not fully utilize. wink.gif

*looks at your rig*

The PSU has twice the power it's needed, and that CPU is probably sitting idle 95% of its lifetime... rolleyes.gif
There's also an amount of RAM that almost never will see itself filled.

This thread has so much speculation going on it hurts my brain wink.gif
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the common/mass dont care about a nanometer on their cpus they just wnat that their pcs work to be use
they are not like us they dont know the size of a die of 32nm.

The amount of misinformation in this post is outright ridiculous.

Of course the transistor width matters! How do you expect us to increase power, lower power consumption, and maintain die sizes without going to smaller fabrication processes?

By your logic, the consumer market should still be in the 0.21 micron process. Because hey, it worked back in 1997. It doesn't matter if a current smartphone has several times the power at 30x less the power consumption and 10x less the size.
   
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looks at your rig*

The PSU has twice the power it's needed, and that CPU is probably sitting idle 95% of its lifetime...
There's also an amount of RAM that almost never will see itself filled.

This thread has so much speculation going on it hurts my brain

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16Gb of ram is quite low for Rendering 1080p videos with a bunch of filters, im assuming he does video work and encoding thats why he has 16gb of ram and im sure 16gb sometimes aint enough. Im always hitting 14GB of ram daily just by browsing the web with like 50+ tabs open. so yea 16gb does full up quite easily
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i hope steamroller will be better than haswell
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16Gb of ram is quite low for Rendering 1080p videos with a bunch of filters, im assuming he does video work and encoding thats why he has 16gb of ram and im sure 16gb sometimes aint enough. Im always hitting 14GB of ram daily just by browsing the web with like 50+ tabs open. so yea 16gb does full up quite easily

That isn't normal. I'm afraid of what you've got open in those tabs (lots of flash or something?). Sometimes on the "House Computer" we can have 5 users on their accounts (during the day) and never use 4.5 gigs. Trust me, everyone is keeping anything in browsers + other stuff they use open/running in background. Your one of those power users. I can't comprehend what your doing.... devil.gif
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In all seriousness, BD was bad because it was so over hyped and over priced at launch.

No, Bulldozer was bad because AMD has made bad decisions in terms of both engineering and management.

http://www.insideris.com/why-amd-failed-another-ex-employee-confession/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20111013232215_Ex_AMD_Engineer_Explains_Bulldozer_Fiasco.html
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

Why do consumers need quad-channel memory?
Why do consumer need more cores? Most consumer workloads are not that parallel.

Besides, what the mainstream market really wants is lower-power consumption... not more cores or performance.
The server market wants more performance per watt through more cores or higher IPC.

What enthusiasts want isn't that relevant.
There's nothing that would stop Intel from integrating into HSA.

True but AMD would be at the forefront of the tech, they would make it the industry standard like they did x86-64.
Plus AMD's superior GPU technology would gave them a huge edge. While we won't see full on HSA till late 2014 or 2015 earliest, it would take Intel even longer to implement it.

The large FPU advantage that it would grant AMD would give it a huge lead in the super computer field.


Now if only AMD can improve the integer side of the chip as well....


Those xeon phi cards still do less with more wattage then a comparable Nvidia card. Even though Intel could migrate that tech into HSA compatible tech(probably would be easier to code for as well as it's x86 based), they would need to start working on it now. Not when HSA becomes a standard.
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I would love to see AMD decimating Intel & Nvidia.
Competition is always good for us consumers.
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That isn't normal. I'm afraid of what you've got open in those tabs (lots of flash or something?). Sometimes on the "House Computer" we can have 5 users on their accounts (during the day) and never use 4.5 gigs. Trust me, everyone is keeping anything in browsers + other stuff they use open/running in background. Your one of those power users. I can't comprehend what your doing.... devil.gif

Actually its the same for me. I have 12GB of ram and its not that rare for me to go over 10GB just doing desktop stutff and browsing the web. When there is more ram, chrome makes use of more ram. In a system with less ram stuff gets put int to the page file. I used to have only 6GB of ram and back then chrome used far less as there was less available.

As for Steamroller being able to take Intels offerings head on? Believe me I would like noting better but after the massive letdown that was bulldozer I'm firmly in the "I believe when I see it" camp.
    
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Actually its the same for me. I have 12GB of ram and its not that rare for me to go over 10GB just doing desktop stutff and browsing the web. When there is more ram, chrome makes use of more ram.

4GB here and I can play a game while having 4-5 chrome tabs opened on the second screen and folding on 2 CPU cores. Nothing slows down.

You have got a serious problem somwehere, as my Trinity rig has 6.2GB usable for Windows and uses even less RAM than my main system.
   
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