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I like how you think,

Also, Optys could be used for multi CPU rigs, maybe EVGA would release an AMD SR-2 (not SR-X because it was poop)


(also your avvy rocks)
Do your research please and if you did the SRX is fine. The reason for the lacking of overclocking is because the processors you have to get for it has a locked multiplier.
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Hate to be a party pooper...

The enthusiast market is really insignificant. Very, very, very insignificant. If a semiconductor company has an enthusiast line, it's for marketing or because they're bored. Chrysler doesn't make the Viper because it keeps the company afloat. They also don't make them because they are incredibly profitable.

AMD needs to create a great product that the server space and PC OEMs want. IMO they are already there with Trinity, but not enough to sway OEMs. They need to release Kaveri right. They need to invest in marketing, and they need to make the general consumer want a HP or Dell with AMD written somewhere on the box instead of Intel. They need to combat "Intel Ultrabooks" with something of their own.

They need to walk before they can run.

Yeah but Steamroller cores having 20-30% higher IPC would be cool.

I agree with this. we are in after thought. AMD and Intel care number 1 about the OEMs, and around number 42, about us. While I hope streamroller is good all of the moneys going to be in the APU side of it, and I can't blame them for that, if they want to survive they need to do that.
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Steamroller decimating Haswell kookoo.gif

If for whatever miraculous reason Steamroller happens to oust Haswell, I can see Intel reducing the cost of its extreme processors... Highly unlikely but once in a while a Hail Mary is successful
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I'm just hoping for AMD to get back on track, increase IPC and get wattage down. Intel shouldn't even come up. AMD can't even stand by the king right now.
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the common/mass dont care about a nanometer on their cpus they just wnat that their pcs work to be use
they are not like us they dont know the size of a die of 32nm.

The mass do not care about die size/fabrication process, however AMD shareholder will care about how for the same wafer Intel can make 2 3770K while AMD can only make one 8350, the production cost for Piledriver likely dwarfs that of Ivy Bridge yet AMD have to sell them for much less than their Intel counterpart, in a market where margin is relatively small(consumer market).

Being 1-1.5 node ahead(in 2014 Intel will be on 14nm while AMD is on 28nm) means Intel product will continue to have substantially lower power consumption which is critical in the high margin server business.
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The mass do not care about die size/fabrication process, however AMD shareholder will care about how for the same wafer Intel can make 2 3770K while AMD can only make one 8350, the production cost for Piledriver likely dwarfs that of Ivy Bridge yet AMD have to sell them for much less than their Intel counterpart, in a market where margin is relatively small(consumer market).

Being 1-1.5 node ahead(in 2014 Intel will be on 14nm while AMD is on 28nm) means Intel product will continue to have substantially lower power consumption which is critical in the high margin server business.
And don't forget to add this little peice of info too. Most Intel CPU well be solder to the the mobo in 2014 and this well be Intel down fall in most cases for us.
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And don't forget to add this little peice of info too. Most Intel CPU well be solder to the the mobo in 2014.

Which means better connection between CPU and mobo(no more denied RMA due to bent pins!!! hurray!!!!), locking a CPU to a mobo also means it is much easier to write Bios for that mobo since you no longer have to accomedate 10+ different SKUs. According to the Tech-report article BGA is only for select Broadwell chips and Skylake will be LGA again, after Skylake sucessor in 2016 Intel might go full BGA, however I buy a new mobo with the new CPU anyway so that don't affect me.
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FlexFPU is dual threaded internally. FleXFPU is fed by "both" (4 way)" decoders in Steamroller
    
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Now onto Steamroller. Projected 20-30% better IPC then "Piledriver". With haswell only being around 10% better then ivy this is the best opportunity to fire back at intel and i believe dethrone them in Mainstream and Enthusiast. 
This is what people said about BD over Phenom II and PD over BD. Which we all know that Phenom II is a little better than BD and PD is about the same has Phenom II.
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This is what people said about BD over Phenom II and PD over BD. Which we all know that Phenom II is a little better than BD and PD is about the same has Phenom II.

I originally assumed steamroller would be 10-15% better but was told that its looking like 20-30% now which is why I threw that number out there. All that matters is it atleast match's Intels gain from ivy to haswell. Anything more and its a bonus
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