Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Amd Steamroller. The secret weapon that could decimate Intel
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Amd Steamroller. The secret weapon that could decimate Intel - Page 6

post #51 of 210
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

I originally assumed steamroller would be 10-15% better but was told that its looking like 20-30% now which is why I threw that number out there. All that matters is it atleast match's Intels gain from ivy to haswell. Anything more and its a bonus

AMDs internal testing has shown a 30% improvement in operations per cycle, in average workloads including games, digital media and productivity. The thing is it doesn't say over which architecture it brings such an improvement so for all we know it could a 30% improvement over athlon 64 biggrin.gif
Mike Wazowski
(8 items)
 
  
Reply
Mike Wazowski
(8 items)
 
  
Reply
post #52 of 210
Quote:
Originally Posted by dixson01974 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Now onto Steamroller. Projected 20-30% better IPC then "Piledriver". With haswell only being around 10% better then ivy this is the best opportunity to fire back at intel and i believe dethrone them in Mainstream and Enthusiast. 
This is what people said about BD over Phenom II and PD over BD. Which we all know that Phenom II is a little better than BD and PD is about the same has Phenom II.

If you've read the benchmarks in most cases PD is a solid improvment over both BD and Phenom in IPC. And it has has higher clocks to go with the higher IPC, with similar wattage.

As for this 'amd uses more power' thats only half true. Look at the PD APU line. You can buy 4 cores, a highish clock speed, an ok IPC, and decent starter gaming gpu in 65watts and for $120. As far as I'm concerned, thats more impressive then anything Intel has it offer, even if it's IBs still have a bit higher IPC.

EDIT---

And an unlocked multi
post #53 of 210
The only processor's I've ever owned is Intel. Simply? They cost more, but they're better. End of.

Bulldozer was hyped to be the biggest 'intel killer' and all that, what happened? it died flat on it's arse. Couldn't even out-perform Sandy Bridge in some tasks, never mind Ivy. I hold little to no faith in AMD's capability to make a better chip than intel, although you could argue it's more efficient in terms of money.. but you're on an overclocking website, where we build PC's for power, not for budgeting.

The only respectable AMD processors I've ever regarded is the Phenom series & the APU line, but even then, I'd just recommend an i3 for a little more money. And no, I may come across as Intel's biggest fan boy, but it's just purely opinion that in my eyes, has been proven correct.
Edited by VoodooActual - 2/3/13 at 12:17pm
The Red Baron
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k MSI Z97M mATX Gigabyte 970 Windforce G-Skill 8GB Ripjaws X @ 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung F3 1TB Samsung 830 SSD 128gb LG 22x DVD R/W Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2411T 144hz Ducky DK2108S Corsair GS800W SeaSonic X Series X650 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steel Series QcK+ XL Sennheiser HD558 AntLion ModMic 
  hide details  
Reply
The Red Baron
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k MSI Z97M mATX Gigabyte 970 Windforce G-Skill 8GB Ripjaws X @ 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung F3 1TB Samsung 830 SSD 128gb LG 22x DVD R/W Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2411T 144hz Ducky DK2108S Corsair GS800W SeaSonic X Series X650 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steel Series QcK+ XL Sennheiser HD558 AntLion ModMic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #54 of 210
Quote:
Originally Posted by VoodooActual View Post

The only processor's I've ever owned is Intel. Simply? They cost more, but they're better. End of.

Bulldozer was hyped to be the biggest 'intel killer' and all that, what happened? it died flat on it's arse. Couldn't even out-perform Sandy Bridge in some tasks, never mind Ivy. I hold little to no faith in AMD's capability to make a better chip than intel, although you could argue it's more efficient in terms of money.. but you're on an overclocking website, where we build PC's for power, not for budgeting.

The only respectable AMD processor I've ever regarded is the Phenom series, but even then, I'd just recommend an i3 for a little more money. And no, I may come across as Intel's biggest fan boy, but it's just purely opinion that in my eyes, has been proven correct.

But BD was a completely new architecture at the time and we didn't know anything about it's actual performance. SR is merely an improvement upon the PD/BD that we're all familiar with, so this time around we should be able to get a decent idea of what it's actually going to perform like.
Mike Wazowski
(8 items)
 
  
Reply
Mike Wazowski
(8 items)
 
  
Reply
post #55 of 210
Quote:
Originally Posted by VoodooActual View Post

where we build PC's for power, not for budgeting.
We do both Sir.
HTPC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD A-3870K AsRock A75 Pro (FM1) HyperX DDR3 1866 8 GB SAMSUNG 830 256gb 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 2TB Plextor Black Blu-ray Burner Phenom II X4 stock Cooler Windows 10 
MonitorPowerCase
LG M2762D-PM Glossy Black 27" 5ms (1920x1080) Antec HG 900 Gerenic ATX Case 
  hide details  
Reply
HTPC
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD A-3870K AsRock A75 Pro (FM1) HyperX DDR3 1866 8 GB SAMSUNG 830 256gb 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 2TB Plextor Black Blu-ray Burner Phenom II X4 stock Cooler Windows 10 
MonitorPowerCase
LG M2762D-PM Glossy Black 27" 5ms (1920x1080) Antec HG 900 Gerenic ATX Case 
  hide details  
Reply
post #56 of 210
Quote:
Originally Posted by VoodooActual View Post

The only processor's I've ever owned is Intel. Simply? They cost more, but they're better. End of.

Bulldozer was hyped to be the biggest 'intel killer' and all that, what happened? it died flat on it's arse. Couldn't even out-perform Sandy Bridge in some tasks, never mind Ivy. I hold little to no faith in AMD's capability to make a better chip than intel, although you could argue it's more efficient in terms of money.. but you're on an overclocking website, where we build PC's for power, not for budgeting.

The only respectable AMD processors I've ever regarded is the Phenom series & the APU line, but even then, I'd just recommend an i3 for a little more money. And no, I may come across as Intel's biggest fan boy, but it's just purely opinion that in my eyes, has been proven correct.

I can fully see buying an i3 if you plan to also buy another GPU and can find a good deal, otherwise, the new PCs I build will have APUs.

EDIT--

But I must say, that's a pretty awesome avatar. Good to have another Kubrick fan thumb.gif
post #57 of 210
You talk about wishing Piledriver was released as a 5c/10 thread part but the 8350 is already very far behind Intel when it comes to power consumption, adding more cores will just make things worse. Piledriver was a properly priced bandaid to the junk that was bulldozer.

Steamroller on the other hand, I'm very excited about.
post #58 of 210
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derp View Post

You talk about wishing Piledriver was released as a 5c/10 thread part but the 8350 is already very far behind Intel when it comes to power consumption, adding more cores will just make things worse. Piledriver was a properly priced bandaid to the junk that was bulldozer.

Steamroller on the other hand, I'm very excited about.

Power consumption is only relevant to servers and less to desktop and power users.
Core I7 5960X
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core I7 5960X ASRock X99 OC Formula MSI GTX 970 Gaming MSI GTX 970 Gaming 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G. Skill 16GB DDR4 2600 Sandisk Extreme II 240GB SSD Custom 480 Water Setup Windows 10 
PowerCase
AX1500I Corsair 900D 
  hide details  
Reply
Core I7 5960X
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core I7 5960X ASRock X99 OC Formula MSI GTX 970 Gaming MSI GTX 970 Gaming 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G. Skill 16GB DDR4 2600 Sandisk Extreme II 240GB SSD Custom 480 Water Setup Windows 10 
PowerCase
AX1500I Corsair 900D 
  hide details  
Reply
post #59 of 210
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Power consumption is only relevant to servers and less to desktop and power users.

Or the equally over-the-top environmentalist.
The Red Baron
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k MSI Z97M mATX Gigabyte 970 Windforce G-Skill 8GB Ripjaws X @ 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung F3 1TB Samsung 830 SSD 128gb LG 22x DVD R/W Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2411T 144hz Ducky DK2108S Corsair GS800W SeaSonic X Series X650 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steel Series QcK+ XL Sennheiser HD558 AntLion ModMic 
  hide details  
Reply
The Red Baron
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k MSI Z97M mATX Gigabyte 970 Windforce G-Skill 8GB Ripjaws X @ 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung F3 1TB Samsung 830 SSD 128gb LG 22x DVD R/W Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2411T 144hz Ducky DK2108S Corsair GS800W SeaSonic X Series X650 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steel Series QcK+ XL Sennheiser HD558 AntLion ModMic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #60 of 210
If AMD would release some quad-core or maybe even dual core processors at 5GHz+ speeds, plus 12-core chips running at 4.5GHz, and AM3+ motherboards w/ PCIe 3.0, Intel would have more than a petty annoyance.
Some/most/all of you may think that there are no AMD motherboards that support PCIe 3.0, but I have proof.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Wyvz4pj_k
Fortissimo
(22 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8320 @4200MHz 1.32VCore ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 MSI Radeon HD 7850 Power Edition Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1866 @1333MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB Western Digital Blue 1TB Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung SH-222BE Antec Kuhler H2O 620 v4 2x Thermaltake Thunderblade (push/pull) Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VE228H Memorex MX5200 Corsair HX650 Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black 
MouseAudioAudioOther
Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury Logitech Z213 Realtek ALC892 Onboard Audio NZXT Sentry 2 
OtherOther
Kingwin card reader Tenda 802.11N Adapter 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
A6-3670K @3500MHz 1.5VCore Asus F1A75-V PRO MSI HD 7850 Power Edition Radeon HD 6530D (backup) 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Kingston HyperXblu 8GB DDR3-1333 WD Caviar Blue 250GB Samsung SH-222BB Antec Kuhler H2O 620 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Thermaltake Thunderblade Push-Pull (2x) Win7 Home Premium (64-Bit) Windows 8.1 Preview Dell 1280x1024 LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Memorex MX2700 Corsair HX650 Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black Generic mouse 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Gear Head 1.3MP Webcam 2+1 Firewire 400 PCI card Inland USB expansion card Kingwin card reader 
Other
Tenda 802.11N Adapter 
  hide details  
Reply
Fortissimo
(22 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8320 @4200MHz 1.32VCore ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 MSI Radeon HD 7850 Power Edition Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1866 @1333MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB Western Digital Blue 1TB Western Digital Caviar SE 80GB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung SH-222BE Antec Kuhler H2O 620 v4 2x Thermaltake Thunderblade (push/pull) Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VE228H Memorex MX5200 Corsair HX650 Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black 
MouseAudioAudioOther
Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury Logitech Z213 Realtek ALC892 Onboard Audio NZXT Sentry 2 
OtherOther
Kingwin card reader Tenda 802.11N Adapter 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
A6-3670K @3500MHz 1.5VCore Asus F1A75-V PRO MSI HD 7850 Power Edition Radeon HD 6530D (backup) 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Kingston HyperXblu 8GB DDR3-1333 WD Caviar Blue 250GB Samsung SH-222BB Antec Kuhler H2O 620 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Thermaltake Thunderblade Push-Pull (2x) Win7 Home Premium (64-Bit) Windows 8.1 Preview Dell 1280x1024 LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Memorex MX2700 Corsair HX650 Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black Generic mouse 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Gear Head 1.3MP Webcam 2+1 Firewire 400 PCI card Inland USB expansion card Kingwin card reader 
Other
Tenda 802.11N Adapter 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Amd Steamroller. The secret weapon that could decimate Intel