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post #1 of 6
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Hi everyone!
I know there are many threads asking what grip everyone uses, but my question is a bit more specific (i think...)

I recently switched from high sensitivity (requiring veery little movement) to low sensitivity (about 6 inches for 180)
So i also have a torrent of questions now. :\

The way I hold the mouse, it's more a claw + palm grip but often, I rest the "pit" [back or heel] of my palm on the table.
I'm thinking this might lead to inconsistent shots because of friction.
Is this to be avoided?

On the other hand, when I "float" the pit of my palm off the table and just move with my hand, I find it likewise to be harder to control the movement.
(it's fast and I often overshoot targets) Does steady control come with practice?

Also, what are your thoughts on resting your forearm on the table? How far do you rest it? (I'm running a laptop so my mouse is on the desk itself
instead of down on a slidey thingy) I'm thinking flick shots downward are affected by resting your forearm on the table? ._.
Would it be wise to just pivot using the elbow? And if so, do I get my entire arm and elbow on the desk, or do I rest my elbow on the arm rest?

Sorry for the tedious questions guys, I'm now trying to get better at reaction speed and fast/exact aiming and want to start consistently :0 (found a game with no mouse acceleration)
If you have any tips for me, I appreciate it biggrin.gif
post #2 of 6
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Originally Posted by Capsol View Post

I recently switched from high sensitivity (requiring veery little movement) to low sensitivity (about 6 inches for 180)

That's not really low sens, but whatever:

Play the way it is comfortable for you. That's all there is to it. They way you described how you hold the mouse sounds similar to the way I do (at 12"/180), and it's fine for me. Lifting the palm when needed to do fast shots is something that came naturally while resting my palm on the mat helps with fine tuning your aim.
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Ha ha I actually found my perfect ingame sensitivity recently (best ability to track a target while strafing) and it's about 14.5 in/180 now :0

It's definitely a lot of mouse lifting that's for sure, and I do appreciate your point of going for what is comfortable for me.
So for fine aiming like over long distances, palm down, but for close to mid range, palm up? Sorry, i'm a very technical person and want to play more competitively and less casual, thanks for your reply!
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I rest my arm on my table. Well pillow actually because I keep the keyboard close to the edge of my table. I rest my hand on top of the mouse so it is as relaxed as possible (with a slight space at my palm for control and to click the buttons better) and have the speed of my mouse set so that I can turn 180 degrees with one flick using my wrist (i dont move my arm) from the center left or right. So like 2 to 3 inches either way. After playing CS for so long, I've found that this lets me be extremely accurate and it doesn't tire my arm or hand. Unless if I'm really concentrated moving the mouse a lot then my hand gets tired, and I take a break.

I've tried having more a claw grip before, but I think my hand always went back to a more relaxed position on the mouse. And claw grip is tiring, which can mess up accuracy IMO. And I don't find it useful to be more accurate. One note to make is that my mouse is extremely light. So just moving my wrist is easy.

I often lift up my mouse to either put it on one side and then a big swipe to make one big turn or to put my hand back in a comfortable/default position.

I use my index and middle finger for the buttons, and index finger I move it over to the side of the scroll wheel to switch weapons...or use Q. I used to use the numbers but I've found that using the scroll wheel is easier. Although sometimes I use the numbers to switch more quickly...or maybe out of habit. I don't know. I've only recently started doing this.

I actually took a video of my hand while playing lol. And the way my mouse is my pinkie stops my movement or slows it down (more precision) when I need it to, and I lift it up when moving the mouse. This works for me because of the way my palm pushes forward a bit into the back of my mouse. My thumb rests on the top left edge of my mouse or right on top of the side buttons.

One thing I should mention is that sometimes I get messed up when I have to look far down suddenly. I have to adjust my arm for that. So sometimes I mess up because using just my wrist I start to lift up the middle of my palm, thereby losing accuracy. And to look up I move my arm up, but only far enough where my skin arm can stretch a little lol. Otherwise I swipe up a little with what finger extension I have left. It helps to have that small extra space bewteen my palm and the mouse.

Mouse is in my sig if you want to see how it looks.
Edited by iEATu - 2/3/13 at 11:06pm
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Here is the mouse test. I found this through one of the threads on this site for announcing another mouse and the guy that used it had accurate results. For some reason I'm getting less dpi then I'm supposed to although I remember with windows 7 my mouse felt faster...or maybe I'm just used to it.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1239835/enotus-mouse-test
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Here are some short videos showing how some of the best Quake Live players do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvzdNNH1NY4&playnext=1&list=PLC1EF8C8D449F74AA&feature=results_main , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIfBeK8vpa0 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRBF7rxZD4c

People at the highest level have a wide range of sitting positions, mousegrips, sensitivities, mice, keyboards, mousepads etc and some have the keyboard in their lap while playing so there's no one right way to do it. It's all about finding what works for you, but generally beginners play with too high sensitivity imo. You get better accuracy with lower sensitivity in general and moving your arm around.
Edited by Ginyan - 2/8/13 at 5:57pm
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