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I am still not sure what you want to accomplish. Keeping your room cooler or keeping your coolant cooler?
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Sv: Metal tubing

Overall keeping ambient heat down, capture the heat, both inside and outside the case.
It's just marginals, but still... my solutions are not having the rad in another room, or installing more fans or making them work faster.
I'm after quite computing, that's why I'm looking for these solutions.
post #23 of 46
Well the heat from the tubing is absolutely minimal. Anything you put on top of your plastic tubing, even copper, will help keep the heat in your loop.

Really, you have two options here if you don't want to move your rads outside the room: keeping the heat in the loop, of pushing it out into the room.

Again, the amount of heat dissipated via your tubing is ridiculously marginal. But if you stop the heat to get out of your tubing, it will get out via your rads.

Simply put, you can not 'destroy' the heat, you can only move it around. If you don't want to push it out of the room, which I agree can be a PITA, then it will make the room hotter. No amount of aluminum tape, copper sleaves, or insulation is going to change that.

You can open up the room or install an AC unit. But water cooling is a nusnomer if you will, because it doesnt really cool anything. It just moves the heat around - from your components, to your room.
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Well the heat from the tubing is absolutely minimal. Anything you put on top of your plastic tubing, even copper, will help keep the heat in your loop.

Really, you have two options here if you don't want to move your rads outside the room: keeping the heat in the loop, of pushing it out into the room.

Again, the amount of heat dissipated via your tubing is ridiculously marginal. But if you stop the heat to get out of your tubing, it will get out via your rads.

Simply put, you can not 'destroy' the heat, you can only move it around. If you don't want to push it out of the room, which I agree can be a PITA, then it will make the room hotter. No amount of aluminum tape, copper sleaves, or insulation is going to change that.

You can open up the room or install an AC unit. But water cooling is a nusnomer if you will, because it doesnt really cool anything. It just moves the heat around - from your components, to your room.
You say the heat radiated from the uncovered copper pipe is minimal (but you have no proof).In anycase we argued for over 100 posts how much an electron weighs,only on OCN,
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You say the heat radiated from the uncovered copper pipe is minimal (but you have no proof).

I don't have proof, YOU DO!

Put your hand 2 inches away from your house's cold water pipe. It should be copper. See if you can feel the cold.
Then put your hand 2 inches away from your house's hot water pipe. See how much heat you can feel radiating from that pipe - NONE.

I work with copper pipes every day. Sure they radiate heat and cold, but certainly not anywhere near anything that would heat your room to more than a zillionth of a degree.

But this is not the point of this thread. OP does not want to change his pipes from plastic to copper. He wants to ADD an other layer of copper on top of his plastic tubes. This will only further insulate his pipes and keep them from radiating heat.

And who wants to keep the heat inside his loop anyway? Wouldn't you want it OUTSIDE of the loop as soon as possible?
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I tell you what Pepe grab a hold of any lenght of copper pipe that is flowing 100F(or whatever your hot water tank puts out) hot water.The transfer of heat can clearly be felt.Sure it is not at all the same as adding a radiator but the heat transfer in a copper pipe loop(no matter what the level) is free,or at least already paid for.You also can design the loop to "take the long way home".
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I tell you what Pepe grab a hold of any lenght of copper pipe that is flowing 100F(or whatever your hot water tank puts out) hot water.The transfer of heat can clearly be felt.Sure it is not at all the same as adding a radiator but the heat transfer in a copper pipe loop(no matter what the level) is free,or at least already paid for.You also can design the loop to "take the long way home".
Read the thread.
Im not suggesting that copper pipes will not radiate heat. I am suggesting that copper pipes will not radiate enough heat to keep either his case or his ambient up.
We are not argueing because you know better or less. We are argueing because you are not following the context of the theead.
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post #28 of 46
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The tube that is wrapped around the aluminium of the desktop bone is cooler than the tube that is hanging loose. So that means that the heat is transferred from the hose to the cold aluminium bone.

I think you are looking at it wrong. The aluminium tape is insulation for your pipe, keeping the heat INSIDE the pipe. This is why the tubing feels colder. If you put 2 inches of insulation over your pipes, you will feel no heat from the pipes at all. But that does not mean the pipes are colder, it just means there is an insulation layer over the pipe so you can't feel the heat of the pipe.

If the aluminium tape was suscessful at cooling the pipe, said aluminium tape would feel warmer because it would be absorbing the heat of the pipe.
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post #29 of 46
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I thought so too, just gonna that leave it alone. Aluminium tape is just tape, has no cooling abilities, just isolating.
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This all gives me an idea for metal tubing:
    
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