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Originally Posted by nubbinator View Post

Why are you bumping such an old thread with such a terrible review and not adding any worthy content?

Well, the review may not be the best we have seen.

It does tell us one thing.....is water cooling really necessary.

Also, just read through the comments and decided just to leave a simple comment instead of adding other stuff.
post #282 of 288
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Originally Posted by XigmatekAmerica View Post

Well, the review may not be the best we have seen.

It does tell us one thing.....is water cooling really necessary.

Also, just read through the comments and decided just to leave a simple comment instead of adding other stuff.

Bumping a three month old thread without any new content usually causes threads to be locked and people to be admonished. This is especially true when the thread leads with a terrible review that's, quite frankly, a joke, from his advice tolap an HDT style heatsink to his results that are far outside every other reputable review out there.

If you want to increase views and get people interested about your products, add worthwhile content, don't reply three months later adding nothing to people laughing at this joke of a review.
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Hi There,
Can you tell me what other reputable review are you referring to?
When you refer to HDT style heat-sink, are you referring to Xigmatek's or?
And this thread really isn't about getting people interesed in certain products.
post #284 of 288
For reputable reviews, pretty much any review with an H100 in it. The Thermalright Archon, which is a better heatsink than the Dark Knight II, still loses to the H100, yet Logan somehow magically has the Dark Knight II beating the H100? And, from what I've seen, there are no massive differences between the Dark Knight and Dark Knight II, so for it to suddenly start performing that amazingly when it tested mid-range at Technic3D, Cowcotland, and OverClockersClub, just to name a few much more reputable reviewers, is highly unlikely. It's a good heatsink, but it's not better than the NH-D14, Silver Arrow SB-E, or TC14PE which it would have to be to perform like Logan says it does.

And HDT is a style of heatsink like the Dark Knight II is. Heatpipe Direct Touch. You never lap an HDT style heatsink.
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I agree with you about the beating part, because from our own study it is matching not beating.

The main difference between DK and DK2 is the coating, it is a very expensive coating that can dispense heat effectively, that's how DK2 out perform DK. The difference is quite massive. Not suddenly.


HDT is patented, no one else can use the name,design or the same way we manufacture the heat-sink. All the similar product you see in market may looks the same but it won't perform the same.
You can tell that easily by why a cooler with more heat pipe still got beaten badly.

One of the concern on lapping a exposed heat pipe is coming from the heat pipe thickness. Unlike all the other exposed heat-pipe design out there, our HDT heatpipe is not the same especially on thickness.
Not saying you should lap it because lapping HDT design won't yield much result at all.

Also, the idea for water-cooling is really about it can absorb more heat, like taking a bigger punch.
post #286 of 288
I'm sorry, but unless I see that kind of review from a reputable site, I'm not going to believe you. Thermalright, Noctua, and Phanteks all have much better engineered heatsinks than the Dark Knight II that just barely keep paces with the H100 on extreme. The only way I see the DKII matching the H100 is if you have it on the quiet setting.

HDT is not a patented name. It's a style of heatsink. The way in which it is executed may be, be it's a dime a dozen design and just about every player on the market has an HDT style heatsink. And again, you make these claims, but don't have any reputable reviews to back them up. Send out the DKII to reputable review sites instead of incompetent reviewers like Logan.

No HDT style heatsink is the same on thickness, which is why you don't lap them. It's too easy to lap through the pipe for no real benefit. And if the pipe is too thick, the performance is much worse.

Water cooling is better at controlling for heat spikes, not absorbing more heat, at least not with CLCs.
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I'm sorry, but unless I see that kind of review from a reputable site, I'm not going to believe you. Thermalright, Noctua, and Phanteks all have much better engineered heatsinks than the Dark Knight II that just barely keep paces with the H100 on extreme. The only way I see the DKII matching the H100 is if you have it on the quiet setting.

HDT is not a patented name. It's a style of heatsink. The way in which it is executed may be, be it's a dime a dozen design and just about every player on the market has an HDT style heatsink. And again, you make these claims, but don't have any reputable reviews to back them up. Send out the DKII to reputable review sites instead of incompetent reviewers like Logan.

No HDT style heatsink is the same on thickness, which is why you don't lap them. It's too easy to lap through the pipe for no real benefit. And if the pipe is too thick, the performance is much worse.

Water cooling is better at controlling for heat spikes, not absorbing more heat, at least not with CLCs.


No need to sorry, you believe in what you believe in, thats what marketing for.

We actually prefer real user review than the website. We always encourage peopel buy both and return the one that doesn't perform.

Nowadays a lot of copy cats yes, like I said they look similar, you should really find out more info on how HDT started. especially give out info like "No HDT style heatsink is the same on thickness".

Seems like your judgement in "better" solely coming from size, however effectiveness is really important in the equation too and simply thinking too thick and thicker is the same thing is just another fail.
post #288 of 288
You decided to send a sample to a terrible youtube reviewer (his other reviews are off by a mile too, not just cooler reviews) that did a poor job and you are then using that poor reviewer's results to hype a product.

From the video he says with stock clocks at full load the dark knight with one fan is 49c. Okay, but why the hell does your screen show that one core hit 54C?
And then he says at 4.5GHz with one fan the dark knight at max load is 61c. Again realtemp is sitting right there showing 68c on one of the cores.
And then he says at stock with two fans full load was 48c. But realtemp shows 52c.
And then he says at 4.5GHz with two fans at full load the highest temperature was 58c. Realtemp is showing 68c max.

Those are really big differences and it shows that these guys are willing to lie for whatever they are currently testing.

I don't think this is a bad cooler at all but in the future you should be more specific about who you send review samples to (never teksyndicate again for starters).
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