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How large of assemblies are you going to be doing? I've got a $600 lenovo z580 and it runs solidcam fine. My assemblies are pretty much all on a multiple parts + fixture level for using with CAM software though.

I honestly would not suggest spending much over $1k on a laptop in one blow, especially seeing as your just getting started. I'm not sure how AutoCAD uses the GPU, but solidworks doesn't really need anything but a basic dedicated GPU unless you're specifically doing graphics work. You can save quite a bit if you don't go the quadro route.
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How large of assemblies are you going to be doing? I've got a $600 lenovo z580 and it runs solidcam fine. My assemblies are pretty much all on a multiple parts + fixture level for using with CAM software though.

I honestly would not suggest spending much over $1k on a laptop in one blow, especially seeing as your just getting started. I'm not sure how AutoCAD uses the GPU, but solidworks doesn't really need anything but a basic dedicated GPU unless you're specifically doing graphics work. You can save quite a bit if you don't go the quadro route.

I just checked with the HP website (they have a thing that gives you recommendations based on what AutoCad you are running) and it recommends at least the Nvidia Quadro K3000 GPU i believe. I feel like i should not get a laptop, just get a desktop and do RDP.

btw, the AutoCAD website tells you which versions of AutoCAD you will need for AE. It says i'll need Autodesk Inventor professional and some other ones. Either way, i'm not planning on buying another computer until around junior year.
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SSDs don't cost THAT much anymore.... $.60-.80/GB.

Seagate Momentus XT are only ok... I have one running in my HTPC. It's a faster HDD... sometimes, maybe.


RDP is the Windows native implementation. There are third-party applications like TeamViewer, SplashTop, LogMeIn, etc that do about the same thing. There are technical differences.

There is latency due to the network... BUT if you are just doing work, it should be ok. You can try it on any two Windows machine in the same LAN. Search within Windows for "Remote Desktop Connection" and type in the other computer's name or IP.

I actually got the Seagate Momentus XT. I would have gotten an SSD, but seing as how i'm planning on getting a new computer soon...i don't think i'll need it until then. As for RDP, i'll have to look into that smile.gif
post #14 of 24
Well the RAM upgrade alone will help.
I went from 4GB to 8GB a few weeks ago.

I'm able to run Windows 7 for (For Solidworks) in a virtual machine along side Mountian Lion with Safari, Illustrator and Photoshop open without issues.
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I just checked with the HP website (they have a thing that gives you recommendations based on what AutoCad you are running) and it recommends at least the Nvidia Quadro K3000 GPU i believe. I feel like i should not get a laptop, just get a desktop and do RDP.

btw, the AutoCAD website tells you which versions of AutoCAD you will need for AE. It says i'll need Autodesk Inventor professional and some other ones. Either way, i'm not planning on buying another computer until around junior year.

A lot of the "recommendations" on the product pages are marketing. Don't blindly trust them.
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A lot of the "recommendations" on the product pages are marketing. Don't blindly trust them.

lol. trust...riiight
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Well the RAM upgrade alone will help.
I went from 4GB to 8GB a few weeks ago.

I'm able to run Windows 7 for (For Solidworks) in a virtual machine along side Mountian Lion with Safari, Illustrator and Photoshop open without issues.

i hope so, but even still, my current processor is the intel core 2 duo with the NVIDIA GeForce 320M, so yeah. not much i can do there. What is a virtual machine?
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A lot of the "recommendations" on the product pages are marketing. Don't blindly trust them.

Yep. I took a solidworks class and they tried to push quadros for every workload. They have low end quadros listed for low end work, and higher end ones for more complex... except people are running solidworks fine in a VM for lower end stuff, which means a GPU barely capable of hardware rendering at all. If I got a better machine for CAD work, I would look at CPU and RAM to help with rebuild times and loading larger assemblies. I haven't seen any sign my low end mobile geforce is being stressed at all.

You really only need a fancy GPU if you are trying to do photo-realistic rendering. When you get a job, go ahead and tell them you need a $7k workstation to save you 15mins a week over a $1k computer, and they might go for it. While you're a student on your own dollar, it doesn't seem like the best course of action.

(edit) A virtual machine (VM) is an emulator that essentially emulates a computer inside of yours. You install a new OS and programs in it, and it is not aware that it isn't a standalone computer. You can tab out to your real desktop and have other stuff running there. Since it's emulating a computer, you have a notable performance loss, mostly in the GPU department.
Edited by Crazy9000 - 2/6/13 at 4:02pm
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Yep. I took a solidworks class and they tried to push quadros for every workload. They have low end quadros listed for low end work, and higher end ones for more complex... except people are running solidworks fine in a VM for lower end stuff, which means a GPU barely capable of hardware rendering at all. If I got a better machine for CAD work, I would look at CPU and RAM to help with rebuild times and loading larger assemblies. I haven't seen any sign my low end mobile geforce is being stressed at all.
I'm running Solidworks 2011 inside a W7 virtual machine currently alot.
1 Core, 2 Threads of a i5-2415M, 5GB of ram and OpenGL Acceleration (HD3000).
No issues at all, even with 6-7 single parts and 3 assemblies open.

Edit:
Rendering times for 720p images with Textures Max quality of the above takes around 5 minutes each if i close the individual parts and have just the assemblies open.
Edited by ivr56 - 2/6/13 at 9:25pm
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Below is the system requirement for Auto Cad 2013 from their website.....

System Requirements http://usa.autodesk.com/autocad/system-requirements/

For 32-Bit AutoCAD 2013
For 64-Bit AutoCAD 2013

Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise, Ultimate, Professional, or Home Premium (compare Windows 7 versions) or Microsoft Windows XP Professional (SP2 or later)
AMD Athlon 64 with SSE2 technology, AMD Opteron® processor with SSE2 technology, Intel® Xeon® processor with Intel EM64T support and SSE2 technology, or Intel Pentium 4 with Intel EM64T support and SSE2 technology
2 GB RAM (4 GB recommended)
6 GB free space for installation
1,024 x 768 display resolution with true color (1,600 x 1,050 with true color recommended)
Internet Explorer 7.0 or later

Certified graphics card http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/syscert/card?siteID=123112&catID=18254205&id=18844534&product=56&os=8192&hw=270

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