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AMD cards got the brute strength, but FPS quality leaves much to be desired

http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7950-stumble-in-windows-8/5

670 is better than the 7950


OP, if you're planning on spending on a NICE upgrade later, consider getting one GTX 660, then another later. The SLI beats and is cheaper than the GTX 680.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy5478lBais
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I actually already bought the power supply, it was cheap at only 49.99 and if I can someday use it to do SLI at that price I will be happy. Only thing I dislike about it is that the cables aren't black or covered with a black sleeve like those corsair ones are. (And the fact that it isn't modular, which I knew wasn't going to be in my price range).

I also already received my case which, for the record, is a NZXT Phantom 410 in gunmetal.

Back on topic though, I think I am going to go with the 660ti overclock, despite the fact that I know the 7950 can really beat it if overclocked decently. Someday I probably will just pick up another one to sli them if the price comes down enough (maybe when the nvidia 700 series is released) so I can keep up with the competition.

I also already have my i5-3570k so I'm going to order my motherboard, ram, hyper 212, and ssd so that I can put everything together. May have to wait a couple more weeks for the GPU, so any other suggestions are certainly welcome.

I really appreciate the feedback guys!
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Definitely 7950 over 660ti. The 660ti is also going to start showing its age very quickly as it has 2gb ram (even if you sli it) vs 3gb for the 7950 .
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Definitely 7950 over 660ti. The 660ti is also going to start showing its age very quickly as it has 2gb ram (even if you sli it) vs 3gb for the 7950 .

Isn't video ram just needed if you plan on playing in higher resolutions than 1080p? Are there any other reasons why 3gb vs 2gb would be necessary?
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Originally Posted by Tong View Post

AMD cards got the brute strength, but FPS quality leaves much to be desired

http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7950-stumble-in-windows-8/5

670 is better than the 7950

I wont go into much detail but it has been pointed out in numerous threads that this review, which they have done twice, has many inconsistency's. There are much more reviews and users who praise the 7950 and don't notice any of the frame lag or whatever they claim.

OP get the 670 or the 7950, either will perform great. And don't be wary of overclocking a 7950(or 670 for that matter). It's as simple as moving a slider and running a few bench test to test for stability.
post #16 of 48
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Suggesting the 670 over the 7950?!? You guys are crazy. 7950 is by far the better bang for your buck card. It is comparable to the 670 at stock and beats it pretty handily OCed ever since the last few AMD drivers. Not to mention its a good chunk of change cheaper. Unless you wanna fold or need physx or are a fanboy (like me haha) the 7950 is a no brainer.
I have personally owned both an MSI 7950 and a EVGA GTX 670 and I completely recommend the 670. Although it costs a bit more, I find that it runs about the same, I overclocked the 7950 to 1150 core, forget the memory and it gets about the same FPS as my GTX 670. The 670 is also quieter (although you cant really compare that because I didnt select exactly a high quality 7950) and for some strange reason, everything looks better. Unexplainably, everything just seemed to look nicer. Oh and you can easily select custom shaders for a huge variety of games (Guild Wars 2 running on the Half Life 2 shaders and AA).

As for the rest of the parts chosen, get the Samsung 840 Pro instead of the standard version
The motherboard, Asrock Extreme 4 or Gigabyte UD3H/UD3.
CPU cooler, Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo or Xigmatec Dark Night.
Case, whatever is left over in your budget.
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Isn't video ram just needed if you plan on playing in higher resolutions than 1080p? Are there any other reasons why 3gb vs 2gb would be necessary?

There are a few games now that will use all or close to all of that 2gb at 1080p, so going with a 3gb card will allow you to be future proof for a while longer, especially if you decide to SLI later rather than grabbing a new card. You might be better off grabbing a 3gb 660ti now so if you SLI in a year or two you aren't stuck with a lot of HP with too little VRAM.
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I actually already bought the power supply, it was cheap at only 49.99 and if I can someday use it to do SLI at that price I will be happy. Only thing I dislike about it is that the cables aren't black or covered with a black sleeve like those corsair ones are. (And the fact that it isn't modular, which I knew wasn't going to be in my price range).

I also already received my case which, for the record, is a NZXT Phantom 410 in gunmetal.

Back on topic though, I think I am going to go with the 660ti overclock, despite the fact that I know the 7950 can really beat it if overclocked decently. Someday I probably will just pick up another one to sli them if the price comes down enough (maybe when the nvidia 700 series is released) so I can keep up with the competition.

I also already have my i5-3570k so I'm going to order my motherboard, ram, hyper 212, and ssd so that I can put everything together. May have to wait a couple more weeks for the GPU, so any other suggestions are certainly welcome.

I really appreciate the feedback guys!

Motherboard price/performance : Gigabyte Z77X - D3H, ASRock Z77 Extreme 4
SSD : Samsung 840 Pro, Crucial M4, or maybe OCZ Vertex 4
HSF : CM Hyper 212

for 660 Ti, I recommend this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125450
Edited by Sharchaster - 2/5/13 at 6:42pm
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Okay guys, once again, I really appreciate the feedback, + rep to you all!

If I got a 2 gig 660ti right now and got a three gig later for sli, would I basically just have 3 gigs then? I know it isn't additive. Would I have to have two 3 gig cards or would one be enough? I know they would both have to be 660ti's in order to sli them, but would they have to have the same amount of vram?
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post #20 of 48
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Okay guys, once again, I really appreciate the feedback, + rep to you all!

If I got a 2 gig 660ti right now and got a three gig later for sli, would I basically just have 3 gigs then? I know it isn't additive. Would I have to have two 3 gig cards or would one be enough? I know they would both have to be 660ti's in order to sli them, but would they have to have the same amount of vram?

I think you probably buy a 3 GB model....so you don't worry about VRAM (until 700 series came out if you want to upgrade), and once you SLI....you will be able to max out most of games.
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