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Those timings are way off man.Reset to auto and start over.

Um no...
It won't POST on AUTO settings...let alone be stable.
    
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21 pass
0 error
35:45 hours
4 modules

9 CAS
13 TRCD
9 TRP
20 TRAS
2 Command Rate
20 TRC
10 TWR
160 TRFC
5 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
9 TCWL
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I haven't looked into it, but my ballistix on an asrock 990fx fatal1ty won't boot at 1866 either (4x4gb). I've just been running it at 1600 but im interested to know how this turns out.
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Have you tried running them @ 1600 and oc them to 1866. I know that it works for the Biostar TA990FXE. Biostar and AsRock has the same problem with setting 4 stick at 1866 in the bios.
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I haven't looked into it, but my ballistix on an asrock 990fx fatal1ty won't boot at 1866 either (4x4gb). I've just been running it at 1600 but im interested to know how this turns out.

I'm glad to hear someone will benefit from my pain.
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Have you tried running them @ 1600 and oc them to 1866. I know that it works for the Biostar TA990FXE. Biostar and AsRock has the same problem with setting 4 stick at 1866 in the bios.

Do you mean set the RAM at 1600 then OC the FSB (or FSB equivilent) to OC the RAM?

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I'm going to run memtest with RAM set to 1600 9-9-9-24 and "FSB" set to 222 (11% OC...making it about 1776) and see if I get any errors.
I have the north bridge (<2000mhz) and HT (<2200mhz) underclocked and the CPU at about 4000mhz.
It won't boot at 225 "FSB".
(I'm not sure what the correct name for FSB is on this architecture so I'm just going to use FSB.)

I think it did a few good memtest passes.
But I've seen instability as high as the 16th pass so who knows how stable that was.
Currently I'm going to 16 passes which is taking over 24 hours...close to 36 hours actually.
Anyway 1776 was as high as I could get.
    
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Some information from the Bulldozer OC Guide that might be of some use.
I need to post the pictures of my BIOS sometime when I'm not memtesting.
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#2 CPU NB VID: Stock 1.175, safe on air up to 1.35v. I have no idea why AMD did this, but I also have no idea why they released BD. But AMD boards seem to have two Northbridge’s, but in different senses of the word. Everyone thinks of a Northbridge as being the first chipset paired with a Southbridge, and the 990FXA Northbridge is just that, and it has its own NB voltage. BUT, AMD CPUs have a Northbridge as well, built into the CPU. It handles things other than the CPU cores, and it has a heavy impact on HTT(FSB), CPU NB clocks, and can help memory overclocking.

#3 NB Voltage: This voltage is the 3rd voltage that might need to be changed. It controls the voltage of the Northbridge of the board. Its stock 1.1v, but you can safely take it up to 1.2v. It can help one get a higher HTT/FSB than 265mhz, as well as help with high memory clocks.

How do we OC Bulldozer?

#5 Now that you have an understanding at what voltage and frequency your processor is kind of stable at, then you can fiddle with the finer knobs. Try using the DRAM EOCP for memory if you don’t know how to set your timings, but make sure you always watch the CPU NB frequency, as if it’s too high the system will fail to boot. You also will need to increase the CPU-NB voltage; I set to 1.3v for the heck of it, but too high can cause performance issues. If you want a high HTT/FSB you might need to bump the Northbridge voltage as well as CPU NB. DRAM Voltage can be changed as well.
    
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Do you mean set the RAM at 1600 then OC the FSB (or FSB equivilent) to OC the RAM?
Yes Sir. I have done it with my Biostar which has the same problem. I set the the ram to 1600 and change the FSB to 233 to hit 1866 with the ram. It works for me on the Biostar.
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This is supposed to be 9-9-9-24 1866 RAM...or:
9 CAS
9 TRCD
9 TRP
24 TRAS

If the BIOS is set to 1866 and everything is AUTO then:
1.60 volts
9 CAS
9 TRCD (only stable at 13 or higher)
9 TRP
24 TRAS
2 Command Rate
33 TRC
10 TWR
160 TRFC
4 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
7 TCWL (only stable at 9 or higher)

Machine will not POST until TCWL is 9.
TRCD of 9-12 has proven to be unstable.
    
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20 pass
34:21 hours
0 errors
4 modules

9 CAS
13 TRCD
9 TRP
20 TRAS
1 Command Rate
20 TRC
10 TWR
160 TRFC
5 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
9 TCWL
    
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20 pass
34:21 hours
0 errors
4 modules

9 CAS
13 TRCD
9 TRP
20 TRAS
1 Command Rate
20 TRC
10 TWR
160 TRFC
5 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
9 TCWL

That's some horrid timings..must be different ICs or something wth.gif

How to lower ram timings: lower the 4 settings cL,trcd,trp,tras) 1 setting at a time.one notch at a time .lower it..reboot..see if post..lower 1 more..reboot..etc..until you don't POST..then go back to the last one that worked...and move on to the next setting.This will put close to where you should be
 
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