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I know you got it back up and all but I was just wondering did you ever try upping the CR rate? You usually have to up it and the voltage when running 4 dimms.
Well not really. I have 2 sets of Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 4GB) 1866 running @ 1866 8-8-8-27-1T(1N) with 1.55v. Stock is 9-9-9-27-2T(2N) 1.5v. I only have to change it to 2T(2N) if I run them 2000+ 1.68v.
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I know you got it back up and all but I was just wondering did you ever try upping the CR rate? You usually have to up it and the voltage when running 4 dimms.

In the past yes.
Right now no.
I'm going to do some quick benchmarks and overclocking and leave it at 1 module for now.
I want to save the memtest insanity for monday-friday.
I think I have the FSB stable at 228 and the DRAM stable at 2128.

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you are by far the most persistant person i have seen on here. Thats a compliment. Good luck with your progress.. and dont forget to get some sleep.
sunset1

I've never overclocked my DRAM before...besides using XMP profiles doing memtest for 1 pass and leaving it.
I also have a main rig, HTPC, and a day job so that helps me do this OC in the background and be thorough about it.
=D

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Well not really. I have 2 sets of Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 4GB) 1866 running @ 1866 8-8-8-27-1T(1N) with 1.55v. Stock is 9-9-9-27-2T(2N) 1.5v. I only have to change it to 2T(2N) if I run them 2000+ 1.68v.

Do you keep the 8cas 8trcd 8trp 27tras @2000mhz?
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22 pass
0 error
11:56 hours
1 module

228 FSB
3534 CPU
2052 HT
2052 NB
2128 DRAM
1.60v DRAM
1.25v CPU-NB
1.20v NB

9 CAS
9 TRCD
9 TRP
24 TRAS
1 CR
33 TRC
10 TWR
110 TRFC
4 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
7 TCWL

I also learned a few more things about my motherboard.
DO NOT set the boot failure guard to 1. Set it to at least 2.
If you have any OC settings it will fail to boot from a cold boot...reset is still fine.
That drove me crazy.

Also I still have no damned idea what my NB voltage is.
It's just set to "AUTO" whatever that is.
I have 4 options in my BIOS.
1.10, 1.20, 1.30 and 1.40
I think it's more than 1.20 but I have no current way of knowing. Pun not intended.
I can't make sense of the voltage readouts in HWMONITOR.
At 1.20v NB I can't boot into windows with more than 2052 HT and 2052 NB speeds.
More testing to be done there obviously.
    
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Ugh...well I put in the 4 modules again and the PC immediately set upon driving me insane again.

I feel like Jack Nicholson in the Shining.

Translation: "Bastard would not boot no matter what I did."

I sorted it out though.
Turned off OC settings for now except for the RAM.
I had to change 7 TCWL to 9 TCWL or it would refuse to boot...deja vu.
I even tried messing with CPUNB/NB/DRAM voltages but this is the only thing that would work.
I seem to recall discovering this in week one of testing...always fun to rediscover past horrors that torment your very soul...right?

I stopped running a FSB OC for now.
It's too unstable.
I have to re-vet my DRAM timings for 4 modules.

Oh and I discovered something else...prime95 runs my CPU at 62C and OCCT runs my CPU at 64C.
How about that?

Oh...and I just lost my Internet connection and am having to post from my phone.
Everything's coming up AWESOME!
>=|
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Think you could do me a favor and just try the 4 sticks with some loose timings and a 3cr? If you have not already?
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Think you could do me a favor and just try the 4 sticks with some loose timings and a 3cr? If you have not already?


If you mean 3 command rate that's not an option on my motherboard.

Currently at 6 passes 0 errors...time to go to work.
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15 pass
0 error
25:47 hours
200 FSB
4500 CPU
2000 HT/NB
1866 DRAM
1.2250v CPUNB
AUTOv NB

9 CAS
9 TRCD
9 TRP
24 TRAS
1 CR
33 TRC
10 TWR
110 TRFC
4 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
9 TCWL

Currently testing it at 222 FSB and about 2073 DRAM speed.
So far 6 passes complete.
    
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Well I tested it with 222 FSB and about 2073 DRAM speed and it was fully stable.

18 passes
0 errors
31 hours
222 FSB
4440 CPU
1998 NB/HT (will not boot any higher)
2072 DRAM
1.2250v CPU-NB
AUTOv NB

9 CAS
9 TRCD
9 TRP
24 TRAS
1 CR
33 TRC
10 TWR
110 TRFC
4 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
9 TCWL


But when I went to boot into windows for some benchmarks the bastard refused to POST.
I gave it more NB and CPUNB volts but still it refused.
It will boot with 200 FSB and 4500 CPU and 2000 HT/NB and 1866 DRAM.

I didn't have enough time to figure out what the problem was this morning.
The FSB OC is not stable most likely....or it could be the HT/NB as it was over 2400 (about 2450 I think).

I tried 2600 HT/NB again and it did POST then got HUNG on memtest after 10 seconds...I noticed it an hour later.

I need to figure out the maximum HT/NB/FSB I can use.

My maximum FSB is 228...but I'm not sure what FSB is stable enough to use.
If I can POST with a FSB of 228 or lower...it will remain stable in memtest, 3dmark, etc.
But it won't always POST with a 200+ FSB.

CPUNB volts helped make my DRAM more stable by 1.2250 volts.
More CPUNB volts (up to 1.35) or NB volts (up to 1.20) does not seem to affect the stability one way or the other.
Very annoying.
All those volts just sitting there...mocking me.

I left the PC off for the first day in a while now as its punishment.

I found this today DDR3 Memory Frequency Guide .
It's an interesting read...in a totally useless kind of way.
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I had these odd booting errors that you are having with my Sabertooth 990FX and 960T and for it turned out the board or chip did not like to always post w/ anything over 2400HT even though if I could get it to post the chip was perfectly stable in windows well past 2800HT.

No idea if that is the problem your having or not but just FYI sometimes things get funky. Still think you should be trying a 2 or 3 command rate. Very surprised your computer will not do 3 and I honestly don't know enough about that CPU/Board to understand why that is. The command rate usually needs to go up for 4 dimms or at least that used to be the case.

I'm glad to hear you got it somewhat sorted. It has been a long time since you first posted about it so I could understand if you are have some shinning moments.

Also remember your DDR HT ratio. You need to be able to boot and be stable at whatever HT you would have at that FSB on its own. So if you turn off all your other over clocks and just OC the HT and you can't boot then you can't have that ram speed either.
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Well I tested it with 222 FSB and about 2073 DRAM speed and it was fully stable.

18 passes
0 errors
31 hours
222 FSB
4440 CPU
1998 NB/HT (will not boot any higher)
2072 DRAM
1.2250v CPU-NB
AUTOv NB

9 CAS
9 TRCD
9 TRP
24 TRAS
1 CR
33 TRC
10 TWR
110 TRFC
4 TRRD
5 TWTR
5 TRTP
20 TFAW
9 TCWL


But when I went to boot into windows for some benchmarks the bastard refused to POST.
I gave it more NB and CPUNB volts but still it refused.
It will boot with 200 FSB and 4500 CPU and 2000 HT/NB and 1866 DRAM.

I didn't have enough time to figure out what the problem was this morning.
The FSB OC is not stable most likely....or it could be the HT/NB as it was over 2400 (about 2450 I think).

I tried 2600 HT/NB again and it did POST then got HUNG on memtest after 10 seconds...I noticed it an hour later.

I need to figure out the maximum HT/NB/FSB I can use.

My maximum FSB is 228...but I'm not sure what FSB is stable enough to use.
If I can POST with a FSB of 228 or lower...it will remain stable in memtest, 3dmark, etc.
But it won't always POST with a 200+ FSB.

CPUNB volts helped make my DRAM more stable by 1.2250 volts.
More CPUNB volts (up to 1.35) or NB volts (up to 1.20) does not seem to affect the stability one way or the other.
Very annoying.
All those volts just sitting there...mocking me.

I left the PC off for the first day in a while now as its punishment.

I found this today DDR3 Memory Frequency Guide .
It's an interesting read...in a totally useless kind of way.


FX chips don't do high fsb-CPU/NB-HTT frequency..that being said..Why is your CPU/NB voltage so low?
I set mine @ 1.375 from the jump and adjust from there..usually UP. biggrin.gif
Sometimes the NB 1.8 voltage gets a little bump, too
and NB gets 1.26. whistle.gif
Problemo numero uno is AsRock + AMD IMO ninja.gif2cents.gif
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