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Almost sound like Steam wants to host Kickstarter projects.

 
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post #12 of 103

Go Gabe, there is a man who knows his product and where it needs improving.

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I highly doubt we will ever see HL3 from Valve seeing how they are 100% focus on Steam rather than making games. frown.gif
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They are still hard at work updating their games weekly if not every other day. So there is still a lot going on behind the scenes. I believe that once they have figured out how they want to revolutionize Steam in the future, they will then finish developing their new engine and thus, finally finish making HL:3. Also, I don't remember Gabe being all about the games, I remember him being all about the experience that the consumer can enjoy while purchasing the games that are created. So far he has outdone all other Game distribution systems out there, which means we have to give him credit somewhere along the line. Whether is was due to him creating and implementing it first or implementing it in such a way that it did not effect the experience of the consumer or just enhanced it.
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I like how Gabe is all about the games.

Except when basically everything he's done in the past few years has been specifically for making Steam flavoured money are barely anything to do with games.

Valve has been so successful because they offer a service that adds a ton of value to gamer's gaming. A gamer who uses Valve gets regular access to discounted games, gets easy access to mods and other content through the Workshop, and gets to see upcoming and interesting games he might have missed hearing about through Greenlight.
He gets a friends list that lets him easily find friends online to game with and chat with, he gets access to his games on any computer with an Internet connection, and he can play his games with no Internet for 90-days without connecting in case he loses his Internet connection. If he goes off to serve in Afghanistan he can download his games, put Steam in offline mode, and play his games without Internet for as long as his tour lasts.
He can backup the games to an external hard drive, connect that drive to any computer, and play his games after logging into Steam. He can recommend games, gift games to his friends, get gifted games from his friends, and see the latest releases and top sellers.

Steam adds more value than any other single gaming service. There is a reason they are the 800lb gorilla of digital distribution. While the service is not perfect you really have to go out of your way to hate it.
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If Valve manages to standardize Linux for gaming through Steam, this will definitely create major competition for MS and DX.
Also this would be a big win for OpenGL and developers creating optimized games for the PC. Imagine the leap forward of PC visuals without the DX layer.
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Gabe Newell wants Steam to spit rainbows through lan ports to feed starving children on Pluto.
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Wonderful!

I know a few people who hate Steam (they think it's bulky and don't want extra programs on their computer), so I definitely get Gabe's point here.

Hopefully Steam will support standalone installs that can be optionally integrated into the steam ecosystem as well. There are many games (like the ManiaPlanet/Trackmania games) that really don't need the Steam layer of functionality tacked on, it just gets in the way and duplicates existing features.
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Also, I don't remember Gabe being all about the games, I remember him being all about the experience that the consumer can enjoy while purchasing the games that are created. So far he has outdone all other Game distribution systems out there, which means we have to give him credit somewhere along the line. Whether is was due to him creating and implementing it first or implementing it in such a way that it did not effect the experience of the consumer or just enhanced it.
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Steam adds more value than any other single gaming service. There is a reason they are the 800lb gorilla of digital distribution. While the service is not perfect you really have to go out of your way to hate it.

These kinds of posts bother me almost as much as blind hate posts. If Valve really brought something to the table that adds so much great value, enhances the experience and such, it wouldn't need to be forced upon you. A great product will succeed on its merits, its usually crap or evil crap thats forced down your throats. Steam has done nothing for me but cause issues and steal my games/money and caused countless headaches. What benefit have I gotten? None. And what would make me happy? Being able to opt out of Steam.

There is no reason to have it forced other than control and profit. Its not helping me or enhancing my experience, if it did, I wouldn't care. I can't give Gabe credit because he hasn't done anything for gaming. Valve/Gabe/Steam is the Steve Jobs/Apple of gaming. Almost everything about the company is in the marketing and rabid customer loyalty without reason. Sure, I can see why a lot of people would like this stuff, but its not for everyone. Yet we can attack some companies and people, while others are worshiped while doing similar to the same things.

Steam is a restrictive, locked down ecosystem.

I used to:
1) Buy Game
2) Play Game

Now:
1) Buy Game
2) Run bloatware
3) Check daily to make sure games haven't disappeared from list
4) Contact support asking why games I paid for are gone
5) Deal with robot Steam/Valve support thats about as useful as a magic 8-ball (Almost all replies are auto-generated it seems with little, to nothing to do with your inquiry. All further inquiries are completely ignored)
6) End up buying another copy of same game that doesn't require Steam to play

Glad its such a value added service and I'll be sure to send Gabe an X-Mas card.


I'm in the minority with having such bad issues with Steam, and my bad experiences have tainted my view of them and the company. But the fact that such crap happens to users daily when this should be a completely optional piece of software is a joke. Again, if Steam were so great, added so much value and enriched the experience, people would be flocking to it regardless. They would use such a great service by choice. There is a very good reason this is not the case.

Yes, my posts is quite negative, but someones gotta balance out the love fest going on here. I even think I wouldn't nearly be so hard in my Steam posts if people didn't just blindly praise Gabe/Steam/Valve and make them seem like gods.

So yea, make Steam an option and let it stand by its merits. Wonder how long it would last then tongue.gif
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These kinds of posts bother me almost as much as blind hate posts. If Valve really brought something to the table that adds so much great value, enhances the experience and such, it wouldn't need to be forced upon you. A great product will succeed on its merits, its usually crap or evil crap thats forced down your throats. Steam has done nothing for me but cause issues and steal my games/money and caused countless headaches. What benefit have I gotten? None. And what would make me happy? Being able to opt out of Steam.

There is no reason to have it forced other than control and profit. Its not helping me or enhancing my experience, if it did, I wouldn't care. I can't give Gabe credit because he hasn't done anything for gaming. Valve/Gabe/Steam is the Steve Jobs/Apple of gaming. Almost everything about the company is in the marketing and rabid customer loyalty without reason. Sure, I can see why a lot of people would like this stuff, but its not for everyone. Yet we can attack some companies and people, while others are worshiped while doing similar to the same things.

Steam is a restrictive, locked down ecosystem.

I used to:
1) Buy Game
2) Play Game

Now:
1) Buy Game
2) Run bloatware
3) Check daily to make sure games haven't disappeared from list
4) Contact support asking why games I paid for are gone
5) Deal with robot Steam/Valve support thats about as useful as a magic 8-ball (Almost all replies are auto-generated it seems with little, to nothing to do with your inquiry. All further inquiries are completely ignored)
6) End up buying another copy of same game that doesn't require Steam to play

Glad its such a value added service and I'll be sure to send Gabe an X-Mas card.


STUFF

1) See people praising a good service
2) Make up stuff to be contrary
3) Achieve hipsterhood

Why do you keep using the service if it isn't working for you, then? You aren't forced to use it, lol.
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