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Gaming...Luminary? Valve hasn't done anything be an inspiration to the gaming world. Maybe to the software sales world, but not the gaming world...if anything they hurt it with making micro transactions acceptable practice in TF2. Perhaps the first Half Life was something special, but that was a long time ago
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Give me one example of steam marketing or advertisments.

I don't even have to, the example is right here before us. I never said Valve is stupid. They're actually quite genius.
They have legions of fans who advertise for them. The word of mouth is the best form of advertising.
And there's no one better to have on your side than die-hard fans.
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They are the lesser of many evils if you ask me. I would probably class my self as a fan of steam though I do try to see both sides of anything, steam is a DRM and it is a issue when you think about how you really don't own a game that's on there and if steam were to restrict access to your account you have lost everything.

BUT lets be honest, what do we own media wise nowadays?? I stopped buying CD's years ago, and now i use services like Netflix for films. I don't own either of those media's anymore.

Consider the fact that if we didn't have steam and we were still able to buy games online like we are so used to, we could have clients after clients to install just to get access to all our games.

Sometimes the advantages out way the disadvantages.
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Gaming...Luminary? Valve hasn't done anything be an inspiration to the gaming world. Maybe to the software sales world, but not the gaming world...if anything they hurt it with making micro transactions acceptable practice in TF2. Perhaps the first Half Life was something special, but that was a long time ago

Because both Half Lifes and Portal weren't great or anything...And TF2 is Micro-Transactions done perfectly, you can play the game for free if you want without losing out on anything that affects gameplay, as well as all of the free updates everyone gets...There's a lot of players who have never paid a dime for TF2 but play it a lot..
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I don't even have to, the example is right here before us. I never said Valve is stupid. They're actually quite genius.
They have legions of fans who advertise for them. The word of mouth is the best form of advertising.
And there's no one better to have on your side than die-hard fans.

Valve have literally perfected the art of making money off the backs of other people doing the work,

Instead of a retailer buying stock, they simply take 30% per sale.

They take 75% on the sale price of TF2 items created by users.

Probably similar with DotA 2.

They plan to have companies building "Steam boxes" to put Steam in living rooms for them.

They want Steam to be an api so that other entities can give greater visibility/profit to Steam.

They'll stand "on your side" when it comes to DLC, but they sure as hell don't mind selling it to you by the bucketload!


Valve is about Steam, pure and simple. They've spent more time doing seminars and talking up promoting their brand than actually trying to do anything to forward gaming in a long time.
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Valve is about Steam, pure and simple. They've spent more time doing seminars and talking up promoting their brand than actually trying to do anything to forward gaming in a long time.

Soo..the games they released don't forward gaming?
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I'm starting to wonder... Why do we like/love or use steam?

For me, it all started with competitive counter strike. I had my clanmates on my friends list as well as people from other clans so we could arrange practices or matches.
I had all half life titles in there because after I found out, as a kid, that counter strike was a modification of another game, I just had to play that other game. But I was one of the few that did it: MP was where the fun was at for everybody.

Then, I don't really remember when, I think it was when valve started releasing other games, the orange box, I think, that they started to come up with these huge promotions.

I never checked the store, I didn't play anything but CS. But on a re-install I might have glanced at the store and saw a promotion and decided to take advantage of it.

Later I became a little addicted with those sales, bought many games just for the sake of buying, because they were cheap.
But if you think about it, they are not really cheap, because there are other services where you can buy them for even cheaper prices.

Meh... Now what? I don't play CS anymore. Many of the people that have grown up in the game with me doesn't play anymore because, like me, they don't have time for it.
Many of them are buying games.

But shouldn't steam be just your friends and server list?

I hate having multiple friends lists in the games I want to play with my friends.

Frankly, I don't really know the point, anymore. I might just be addicted to it. It's been a while I have last said hello to any of my friends on steam, basically because of I'm out of CS.


I know they have teams inside valve for their many projects. What I don't like is that there is a team for steam. Even though I know that is the team that makes the most money, whereas the teams responsible for other games, like CS and now dota, is what gives steam their users.


By the way, as an old CS competitive player, I hate that valve now has 3 versions of the game.
Why couldn't they just mix CSS and 1.6 like the PROMOD tried to? Everyone would be happy... I was angry before because it had 2 separate communities, now I'm even more because there are 3... mad.gif
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I have used steam since it's inception. It is fantastic, no issues. I love saved games / settings in the cloud, steam sales, friends list, minimalist UI. I also love browsing the big flashy game advertisements when they pop up...biggrin.gif
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Valve have literally perfected the art of making money off the backs of other people doing the work,

Instead of a retailer buying stock, they simply take 30% per sale.

They take 75% on the sale price of TF2 items created by users.

Probably similar with DotA 2.

They plan to have companies building "Steam boxes" to put Steam in living rooms for them.

They want Steam to be an api so that other entities can give greater visibility/profit to Steam.

They'll stand "on your side" when it comes to DLC, but they sure as hell don't mind selling it to you by the bucketload!


Valve is about Steam, pure and simple. They've spent more time doing seminars and talking up promoting their brand than actually trying to do anything to forward gaming in a long time.

This is quite true, why make your own dlc when you can sell the dlc of other companies and make a profit of that while at the same time looking as the good guy. Meanwhile forcing games that are on steam to sell their dlc through steam as well. They may say they are against dlc but in reality would never want dlc to be gone as it makes up a huge portion of their sales. Does that make them evil? no but it proves they certainly care about money which everyone on here doesn't seem to believe.

At this point they do not even need to make games anymore considering how much revenue their actual games make in relation to steam revenue. That's why they will not bother making big budget games like half life 3, as it would require a huge amount of resources, has high expectations to live up to and would only really be popular with the pc community. While they can just make l4d3 which would require no effort at all and live off the steam revenue.
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I've been saying this was the next step for over a year.
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