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Wrong... both companies had plenty of trouble. Are you trying to disagree with the guy you quoted, or back up his statement by mentioning that there were 28nm troubles?

yes, yes i am...
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SemiAccurate’s channel checks have confirmed the anecdotal evidence that simple shopping provides; Nvidia can’t supply GK104 based GPUs. Sources tell us that AMD shipped more than 10,000 units in their initial shipment of Tahiti based GPUs, the GK104′s direct competitor, and another larger shipment followed the first. Both were before the launch of the first Tahiti card. Since then, with the exception of TSMC’s still unexplained hiccup, shipments have been common and plentiful. Stock in the channel is also plentiful, and Tahiti has never been completely out of stock even if specific models come and go.

In contrast, sources tell SemiAccurate that initial shipments of GK104s, launched more than three months after Tahiti, were unlikely to be more than 1000 units worldwide. Those same channel sources tell us that to date, volume of GK104 based Kepler cards is almost assuredly less than 10,000. At this point, TSMC’s 28nm process has had more than six months to mature, essentially 1/4 of its lifespan, and Nvidia can still not get yields up to par. Everyone else however, can. Nvidia repeatedly says that the abject unavailability of the GTX 680 is due to demand, but shipping numbers directly contradict that claim. At least that is what is being reported here, here, here, and many other places. You may recall that during the Q&A session of the last quarter’s conference call, Nvidia was rather subdued about 28nm. Jen-Hsun Huang said, “The gross margin decline is contributed almost entirely to the yields of 28-nanometer being lower than expected. And that is, I guess, unsurprising at this point.“. While the effect on gross margins may not be a surprise, the fact that Nvidia was having problems on 28nm sure was. Why? Because they are the only company having problems with 28nm. It also doesn’t play well with the rather stretched reasoning about demand vs supply as highlighted above.

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/05/08/nvidias-five-new-keplers-raise-a-red-flag/#.URFXSPJLQwo

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He said "release performance" as in the TSMC manufacturing, presumably. What are you on about? Clocks have nothing to do with that.


so launch cards are garbage right?? they don't perform at all that well right? you're wronger than wrongy up there!
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I keep seeing people saying they'd rather go with the fastest single card then go SLI, is it really that bad?
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I have a suspicion that:

  1. This card is rushed because they want attention away from the PS4 and given that it's limited in quantity it also supports that theory.
  2. Because of this, they haven't worked out all the kinks and users who buy Titan will end up as guinea pigs.


I for one don't want to be a guinea pig.

I want this card to be a mainstream release like the 680 or 580. I don't want to be stuck with an unsupported, overheating mess that gets fixed with the release of the GTX 780 8 or 9 months from now.

I don't want to pay a grand to beta test a video card so that others benefit 9 months from now by getting a trouble free, efficient card that's much cheaper.

Anyone else afraid of this too?

I don't get what the PS4 has to do with this... Nvidia's current cards are already significantly faster than an under clock 7870.
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[wccf] NVIDIA GeForce Titan Features 6 GB Memory

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I keep seeing people saying they'd rather go with the fastest single card then go SLI, is it really that bad?
Nah it's not all that bad, just look at 600 series SLI as that is pretty good. But SLI will always have more issues then single GPU such as the need for good SLI profiles and other things.
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So are they really going to be $899?
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sli/crossfire both have pro's and cons, scaling is sometimes really good in some games and sometimes it's very bad, some games never ever get a working sli/crossfire profile GTA IV for example sucks a big one when it comes to sli or crossfire.
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I keep seeing people saying they'd rather go with the fastest single card then go SLI, is it really that bad?

The only issues I've run in with both my 690 and when I had 580 sli is the occasional game not utilizing both gpu's. I've never had any serious stuttering or some of the others issues that others have had. My experience with Nvidia sli has been great. If I can pull it off on launch day I'm going to shoot for two of these Titan's. Thankfully I have connections with an Nvidia rep smile.gif
 
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I keep seeing people saying they'd rather go with the fastest single card then go SLI, is it really that bad?
Well you don't want bugs in the top of the line cards.
That is not the only things since most games run without any bugs the second issue is some games don't use SLI of Xfire capabilities rendering the second chip useless.

If all are contained on a single die glue-less those problems are eliminated.
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I keep seeing people saying they'd rather go with the fastest single card then go SLI, is it really that bad?

No SLI has not been that bad IMO since before the 4xx series. People keep repeating information they heard through the grape vine, even though the information is incorrect. Even crossfire has improved significantly the past two gens.

I have ran SLI 460, 560, 560ti, and now 660. Not a single issue at all. Even Crossfired without cause for complaint.

People (noobs) have a way of hearing something and then repeating it like its fact even though they have no idea what they are talking about.

Here is my thoughts with my recent purchase. I could have afforded to buy a 7970 GHZ edition, but it was cheaper and more powerful to grab two GTX 660's in SLI, wich will beat a 7970 GHZ hand down for less. I knew I would never crossfire the 7970 so my choice was obvious. I ever once was worried about SLI problems.
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