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...well, that's a problem with a thread like this: ask about an opinion / choice between two specific boards and soon, you are dealing with a lot more boards being thrown in...

...I have worked with Gigabyte and like some of their boards; however I find their corporate support is less strong which makes a $ difference in 'cost of ownership' in commercial applications.

...re Sabertooth Z77, I did not pay $250 but $219 for it...bought it for things like 4 Sata 6G; Thunderbolt-ready w/included connectors, Intel GB NIC (which is generally regarded as the best with the least CPU overhead) and finally, it is the only board out there with a 5 year warranty. We tend to keep systems running for at least that long, but even if you don't, it's a good thing to have.

...the thermal armor is removable (I'm running ours 'naked' given extra fans we have in the case)...though it is a nice feature for those who want to do a lot of 'modding' with case windows and such (excludes me). The only other thing I noticed about thermal armor is that it kept the heard drives cooler by 2 to 3 C, though they were not really running too hot in the first place

...re VRMs, we have boards with 20 phase VRM designs, and those with 8 / 4 / 2...The top two fastest Z77 boards in the world (Asus ROG E and Gigabyte Up7) per published world record tables take almost opposing view on 'VRM' phase numbers...again, it depends what the VRMs are made of and how sustained they can deliver a max load...both approaches are valid as long as the quality is there in the individual components.

...the only thing you don't want is something that pops its (cheap) capacitors - having seen that with ASRock a few years back (and a quick Google search will underscore this), I am wary of ASRock, also in regard to the earlier link I had provided re some ASROck boards misstating the vCore voltage by a large amount. That said, I have not worked with ASRock boards over many years since the ones that did fail (3 of them) were not overclocked and only running a light load (BSD firewall)...still, may be ASRock improved their quality as of late - I cannot comment on that.

Anyways, the Sabertooth Z77 generally does seem to get people divided into heavy pro or con camps in posts, perhaps because it is unique. I'm always surprised by people who don't own one or provide some OC proof (per above) who have an opinion biggrin.gif Having provided you with a 5.2Ghz+ validation for Sabertooth Z77, you can assume that it will run 4Ghz 'just fine'...but then, the other boards may also do the same.

...in the end, I believe that for you there are at least 2 or 3 good mobo choices by different manufactures - whatever you choose, enjoy your new system thumb.gif

edit: here is a nice comparison of various boards / various manufacturers re standard benchmarks by Swiss overclocking site 'ocaholic': http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=806&page=7
Edited by Joa3d43 - 2/5/13 at 6:51pm
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...re VRMs, we have boards with 20 phase VRM designs, and those with 8 / 4 / 2...The top two fastest Z77 boards in the world (Asus ROG E and Gigabyte Up7) per published world record tables take almost opposing view on 'VRM' phase numbers...again, it depends what the VRMs are made of and how sustained they can deliver a max load...both approaches are valid as long as the quality is there in the individual components.

...the only thing you don't want is something that pops its (cheap) capacitors - having seen that with ASRock a few years back (and a quick Google search will underscore this), I am wary of ASRock, also in regard to the earlier link I had provided re some ASROck boards misstating the vCore voltage by a large amount. That said, I have not worked with ASRock boards over many years since the ones that did fail (3 of them) were not overclocked and only running a light load (BSD firewall)...still, may be ASRock improved their quality as of late - I cannot comment on that.

Anyways, the Sabertooth Z77 generally does seem to get people divided into heavy pro or con camps in posts, perhaps because it is unique. I'm always surprised by people who don't own one or provide some OC proof (per above) who have an opinion biggrin.gif Having provided you with a 5.2Ghz+ validation for Sabertooth Z77, you can assume that it will run 4Ghz 'just fine'...but then, the other boards may also do the same.

Yes, you're right. The quality of the components used in a VRM are more important than the number of phases. Having said that, I don't like the fact that Asus went with a doubled 4-phase digital PWM on the Sabertooth.

Especially when the Z77X-UP5 is cheaper and has a much higher quality true 8-phase digital PWM. Again, while the Asus isn't bad, you're getting a much superior product with the Gigabyte at a lower price.

If you're interested in knowing exactly what is under the hood of most boards, here's Sin's VRM list.

http://sinhardware.com/index.php/99-sins-hardware/vrm-list

For the average user either board will be fine. All I'm saying is that the Sabertooth is overpriced for what it is; not that it's a bad board. In all honesty, you'd really only notice a difference if going for extreme overclocks on LN2. Otherwise any half-decent Z77 board will suffice.
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