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I'd say macros have the least affect in FPS's

depends on the macro, as said above. I was just referencing to FPS because I don't play anything else biggrin.gif I guess you can benefit from the click-combo macros even more in RTS or MMOs, but I don't know. An example of a severly damaging macro to FPS would be the "perfect recoil control" macro. I don't know how they work, but I've seen them in videos. Some top players got caught using them.
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depends on the macro, as said above. I was just referencing to FPS because I don't play anything else biggrin.gif I guess you can benefit from the click-combo macros even more in RTS or MMOs, but I don't know. An example of a severly damaging macro to FPS would be the "perfect recoil control" macro. I don't know how they work, but I've seen them in videos. Some top players got caught using them.

Oh valid point, didn't think of it being used that way
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post #13 of 65
Personally I don't view macros as cheating. Generally the advantage of macros are debatable and saying some one is cheating due to macros is quite a stretch IMO. Its like saying using non standard key bindings is cheating or that using a mouse with more buttons is cheating (think razer naga).

Macros fall in to the same category as on the fly DPI adjustment, extra buttons, surround sound ect. Yes they might be useful to some and not everyone has them but at the end of the day its the better player that wins. Macros or not.
    
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@Bit_reaper

They are certainly not in general, just like scripting in older games wasn't, but that doesn't mean certain macros aren't near or above the line.
Like the no recoil macros Ino. mentioned or some "full auto for semi" macros.

--> Macro =/= Macro wink.gif
post #15 of 65
saying a macro is cheating because you have a RAT 7? please. id say the g400 is more cheater friendly with all those buttons on one side.....

besides that, you arent gonna get banned if you dont run headshot/recoil control macros, all i simply run in fps games is a macro that acts like my gun swap key, and another as reload so i dont have to reach over on my keyboard and hit keys.

if macros were purely cheating they wouldnt exist at all. look at the mice the MLG kiddies use, macro buttons galore on them.
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post #16 of 65
What your friend is doing i would consider cheating. Making the pistol shoot like a automatic changes the balance of the game. Thats not a macro that is cheating.
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post #17 of 65
If its just 1button for another one like say reload on the side of the mouse its fine.
Once however you gonne use multiple stuff in a single keypress its an unfair advantage and can be considered cheating.
What your friend is doing is cheating for instance.
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@Bit_reaper

They are certainly not in general, just like scripting in older games wasn't, but that doesn't mean certain macros aren't near or above the line.
Like the no recoil macros Ino. mentioned or some "full auto for semi" macros.

--> Macro =/= Macro wink.gif

Yeah. I guess it depends quite a lot on what someone considers a "macro". Once you start using mouse position readouts and scripting its not really a macro anymore if you ask me.
    
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Yeah. I guess it depends quite a lot on what someone considers a "macro". Once you start using mouse position readouts and scripting its not really a macro anymore if you ask me.

Some RTS games have enough keyboard shortcuts that Macro's could definitely let you do stuff you normally couldn't.
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Some RTS games have enough keyboard shortcuts that Macro's could definitely let you do stuff you normally couldn't.

Agreed. Though as a veteran RTS player I have never felt that macros actually gave my opponents an unfair advantage (personally I don't use macros at all). While they allow you to do stuff you normally could not, they can also "backfire".
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