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Publicly traded stock is a deal with the devil, investors don't care what your long term business model is, and as soon as you stop "growing" you're tossed aside.
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Publicly traded stock is a deal with the devil, investors don't care what your long term business model is, and as soon as you stop "growing" you're tossed aside.

^ this


I will take Quality > Growth any day of the week.
 
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Publicly traded stock is a deal with the devil, investors don't care what your long term business model is, and as soon as you stop "growing" you're tossed aside.

This is the reason companies appear to have no ethics - every shareholder is pulling his own end of the rope.
Not that a coalition of giants owning Dell will do much for consumers, or employees, but...
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I've never seen a company do right by its consumers when there was a Board of Directors and Share Holders clogging the mix. It always comes down to the bottom dollar, and how much they can squeeze the life out of their consumers.

Get rid of the greed, your company will prosper.... At least, that's how I see it.
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I've never seen a company do right by its consumers when there was a Board of Directors and Share Holders clogging the mix. It always comes down to the bottom dollar, and how much they can squeeze the life out of their consumers.

Get rid of the greed, your company will prosper.... At least, that's how I see it.

OK people let's play a game...name 10 private companies that sell or make your favorite products and then name 10 public ones...go.

It's sad to see people demonize the very markets that both directly and indirectly make their lives "better" and yet here it is. The situations like what you describe would not matter if the investors/consumers valued control or influence in a public company...why? Because if they did they wouldn't invest in/buy from a public company that acts like you all describe. But you all don't value those "moral/ethics" as much as you doing getting more consumption for cheaper. What is so hard for people to realize the markets are (mostly) fine...it's that people are their own worse enemy. Everyone continues a self fulfilling prophecy and then says the system is wrong when it's their own actions within the system. Which do you invest in? The Apple with limited ethics and shady off shore accounting/likely off balance-sheet accounting which allows it to just grow like clockwork or the company that plays by the book and even has all the ethics you say you want out of a company but can't seem to grow consistently? Vote with your dollars and the market corrects to such actions. It's not complicated but people think it is.
     
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I've never seen a company do right by its consumers when there was a Board of Directors and Share Holders clogging the mix. It always comes down to the bottom dollar, and how much they can squeeze the life out of their consumers.

Get rid of the greed, your company will prosper.... At least, that's how I see it.

OK people let's play a game...name 10 private companies that sell or make your favorite products and then name 10 public ones...go.

It's sad to see people demonize the very markets that both directly and indirectly make their lives "better" and yet here it is. The situations like what you describe would not matter if the investors/consumers valued control or influence in a public company...why? Because if they did they wouldn't invest in/buy from a public company that acts like you all describe. But you all don't value those "moral/ethics" as much as you doing getting more consumption for cheaper. What is so hard for people to realize the markets are (mostly) fine...it's that people are their own worse enemy. Everyone continues a self fulfilling prophecy and then says the system is wrong when it's their own actions within the system. Which do you invest in? The Apple with limited ethics and shady off shore accounting/likely off balance-sheet accounting which allows it to just grow like clockwork or the company that plays by the book and even has all the ethics you say you want out of a company but can't seem to grow consistently? Vote with your dollars and the market corrects to such actions. It's not complicated but people think it is.

Companies that aren't public, and don't run off of the greed of shareholders:
CaseLabs
Little Devil
NZXT
Parvum
Monsoon
MDPCX
SideWinder Computers
FrozenCPU
PErformance PCs
Xoxide
EK
XSPC
Orthopets
Walk-N-Sync
Slysoft
2D Boy
Little Anita's (best Breakfast burritos in Colorado.)
Team Meat

I buy a lot from small companies, and even large companies that aren't public. I'm willing to pay what something is worth. I don't shop at Walmart, Best Buy, and try to avoid Target unless it's something I can only get from them since I refuse to buy from Walmart. Please, point your finger elsewhere.
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OK people let's play a game...name 10 private companies that sell or make your favorite products and then name 10 public ones...go.

It's sad to see people demonize the very markets that both directly and indirectly make their lives "better" and yet here it is. The situations like what you describe would not matter if the investors/consumers valued control or influence in a public company...why? Because if they did they wouldn't invest in/buy from a public company that acts like you all describe. But you all don't value those "moral/ethics" as much as you doing getting more consumption for cheaper. What is so hard for people to realize the markets are (mostly) fine...it's that people are their own worse enemy. Everyone continues a self fulfilling prophecy and then says the system is wrong when it's their own actions within the system. Which do you invest in? The Apple with limited ethics and shady off shore accounting/likely off balance-sheet accounting which allows it to just grow like clockwork or the company that plays by the book and even has all the ethics you say you want out of a company but can't seem to grow consistently? Vote with your dollars and the market corrects to such actions. It's not complicated but people think it is.

This quite true. Most of the time the private companies only provide service to the larger public companies. So the consumer doesn't often even know about them. There just has been evidence in the past of companies going public and then their services or products tend to go down hill but they make more money as a company...though it is really in the past. A recent example that I can think of would be Facebook...after it went public we started seeing more optional charges and even though I haven't logged on in years I will see the occasional odd email with "People you may know" and it will be scantly clad females that I am quite certain I've never met in my life...so obviously you can pay money to get on those emails. Never happened to me before it went public...in fact I think my "do not send me email" function worked back then too.
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Private companies can focus better especially for long-term goals and do not have to appease investors quarter-to-quarter.

Yes would also assume that going private could be a good thing ...and their monitors are all that matter at the moment tongue.gif
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Yes would also assume that going private could be a good thing ...and their monitors are all that matter at the moment tongue.gif

their monitors have way too much anti glare coating, Pass.
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Private companies can focus better especially for long-term goals and do not have to appease investors quarter-to-quarter.
Which is why I'm really excited by this. Especially since there's been a ton of shifts in the market recently.
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