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Heya, I know this has been covered a couple of times, but I dare say that my issue is somewhat special, and I've exhausted all of the suggestions on the forums.

It all started with me playing a few warmup rounds on csgo (we were prepping for a pcw) when my mate linked me a youtube video of some nice spots for smokenades etc. I alt-tabbed, watched the video, and got back in game. I went onto our home server to try out them nades, and then we were ready for the match... I quit to main menu and notice that my framerate was 10 fps.

Now I've had the same issue before when watching videos in the background (dont ask why, it just happens) and it usually fixed itself when I closed my browser. Either way, I ignored it because the pcw was starting and I entered the game.

In-game FPS was slightly lower than normal... were talking 200-300, where I would usually run csgo on low gfx between 400-500 fps. No issues there - but here's the catch: Whenever someone shoots and the bullet hits the wall - I get 10fps for the duration of the spark/smoke -effect that the bullet creates. The 10fps lasts only for half a second, and then the game is back up in the 200-300 fps region... I mean.. what the?? - With the game unplayable, I restart and start debugging - to no avail.

At the time it happened I was running the latest release of catalyst, I think it was 13.1... which I updated to a couple of days before the incident. When I rolled back my drivers to 12.10, the main menu fps fixed itself, and was back to 120 which it was capped to.. but the issue inside the game still remains.

I also tried putting my card into my friend's PC, and the problem still persisted... What the hell?! Seems unlikely that this would be caused by anything other than a fried card, right? But here's the deal, other games, such as Metro 2033, Crysis, GTA4 etc.. all run normally without any noticeable fps drops. As far as I'm concerned, CoD4, MW2 and CS:GO are the only games affected by this issue.

My system is as follows:
Board: Asus P6X58D Premium
Power: Antec 850W CP-850 CPX
CPU: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0Ghz
GFX: ATI Radeon HD 5970
RAM: 6GB Corsair Dominator @ 1700Mhz
Case: Antec P183 ATX
OS: Win7 Pro

Any brilliant ideas, anyone? Or is the card simply fried? The suddenness of the onset would definitely suggest so, mind you I've been running this setup for 2 years now without any issues.
Now I realize that the 5970 is an oldish card, but it certainly outperforms some of the newer cards that our clanmembers have... and I'd hate to part with it :/


Oh, and another thing, my insurance is going to cover most of the card's value, so once that's sorted it's time to go shopping smile.gif
What do you guys reckon' I should be getting as a replacement? (Lets just say that I've got 500€ ~ 676USD to spend)
I've been looking at the 7970, but I'm reluctant to buy it because it's so... bad... I mean, the previous generation 6990 owns the hell out of it all across the board... as for nVidia.. I know nothing of their cards -always had ATI so far.

Really appreciate the help guys.
-Hande
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Originally Posted by Hande View Post

Heya, I know this has been covered a couple of times, but I dare say that my issue is somewhat special, and I've exhausted all of the suggestions on the forums.

It all started with me playing a few warmup rounds on csgo (we were prepping for a pcw) when my mate linked me a youtube video of some nice spots for smokenades etc. I alt-tabbed, watched the video, and got back in game. I went onto our home server to try out them nades, and then we were ready for the match... I quit to main menu and notice that my framerate was 10 fps.

Now I've had the same issue before when watching videos in the background (dont ask why, it just happens) and it usually fixed itself when I closed my browser. Either way, I ignored it because the pcw was starting and I entered the game.

In-game FPS was slightly lower than normal... were talking 200-300, where I would usually run csgo on low gfx between 400-500 fps. No issues there - but here's the catch: Whenever someone shoots and the bullet hits the wall - I get 10fps for the duration of the spark/smoke -effect that the bullet creates. The 10fps lasts only for half a second, and then the game is back up in the 200-300 fps region... I mean.. what the?? - With the game unplayable, I restart and start debugging - to no avail.

At the time it happened I was running the latest release of catalyst, I think it was 13.1... which I updated to a couple of days before the incident. When I rolled back my drivers to 12.10, the main menu fps fixed itself, and was back to 120 which it was capped to.. but the issue inside the game still remains.

I also tried putting my card into my friend's PC, and the problem still persisted... What the hell?! Seems unlikely that this would be caused by anything other than a fried card, right? But here's the deal, other games, such as Metro 2033, Crysis, GTA4 etc.. all run normally without any noticeable fps drops. As far as I'm concerned, CoD4, MW2 and CS:GO are the only games affected by this issue.

My system is as follows:
Board: Asus P6X58D Premium
Power: Antec 850W CP-850 CPX
CPU: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0Ghz
GFX: ATI Radeon HD 5970
RAM: 6GB Corsair Dominator @ 1700Mhz
Case: Antec P183 ATX
OS: Win7 Pro

Any brilliant ideas, anyone? Or is the card simply fried? The suddenness of the onset would definitely suggest so, mind you I've been running this setup for 2 years now without any issues.
Now I realize that the 5970 is an oldish card, but it certainly outperforms some of the newer cards that our clanmembers have... and I'd hate to part with it :/


Oh, and another thing, my insurance is going to cover most of the card's value, so once that's sorted it's time to go shopping smile.gif
What do you guys reckon' I should be getting as a replacement? (Lets just say that I've got 500€ ~ 676USD to spend)
I've been looking at the 7970, but I'm reluctant to buy it because it's so... bad... I mean, the previous generation 6990 owns the hell out of it all across the board... as for nVidia.. I know nothing of their cards -always had ATI so far.

Really appreciate the help guys.
-Hande

the 6990 is a dualgpu card that can drain upwards of 450 watts, The 7970 doesn't get "owned" by it given it sips power in comparison.
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I would reinstall an older driver, your 59xx series is probably no longer supported by the newer ATI driver releases, even if they say it is its really not. Dont always update drivers just cause there is a new one, new is not always better, usually they are worse...

after you install an older driver see if it is still happening, dont roll back drivers, completely uninstall them, then boot safe mode use driver sweeper, then reboot and install them, ATI leaves behind alot of junk even if you use their uninstaller... mad.gif
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The 7970 is so bad?? The 6990 is a dual GPU card that brings dual GPU problems. The 7970 is a single GPU and very powerful. I didn't read the wall of text because I saw "7970" and "bad" in the same sentence.
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Originally Posted by Rayleyne View Post

the 6990 is a dualgpu card that can drain upwards of 450 watts, The 7970 doesn't get "owned" by it given it sips power in comparison.

Not intrested in powerconsumption, raw power is all that matters! ;D
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Not intrested in powerconsumption, raw power is all that matters! ;D

If raw power was all that mattered you'd be running Quadfire 7970s
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I remember having a similar issue with my old HD4850 and I never found a fix for it. I upgraded to HD7870 now so I don't have the issue anymore. I don't know if it was the card or driver related because I formatted my computer before I got the HD7870.
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Heya, and apologies for the delay in answering, getting hectic at university and got lots to do...
As for the proposed solutions:
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Originally Posted by Boinz View Post

What about disabling one of the GPU cores?
http://www.overclock.net/t/684164/can-i-enable-or-disable-my-second-gpu-for-my-5970/0_60
Nope, won't budge I don't see any difference between having it on or off :/

And about them drivers.. I did clean it all up and after a quick search I found that people have claimed the 10.4 / 10.5 versions to be most stable so I went with those. - The effect seems to be slightly diminished, but still clearly noticeable. So as far as im concerned - won't budge...

Anything else?
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Originally Posted by Rayleyne View Post

If raw power was all that mattered you'd be running Quadfire 7970s

Were kind of off topic here, but obviously price matters. What I meant to say is that back in the days when I bought the 5970 it cost me 600€ and was the most powerful consumer-grade card on the market... a true flagship model. Now... the ATI flagship model is the 7970 (apparently, given the fact that the 7990 is a rare card here) and its worth anywhere from 360-500€ and it clearly gives less of a bang for your buck compared to the 5970 or indeed the 6990 did. That said, if you wanted a dual gpu card you'd have to crossfire two 7970 cards (or find one of them 7990 rarities) both options which produce a total cost well in excess of 600€. My point here being here that while there has been an increase in gpu processing power over the past years, the cost of said power has increased at a greater rate. Otherwise I should be getting the 7990 for the same price as the 5970 back when it was the newest of the new.
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